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. >> next, we talk with daina ramey berry about the economics of slavery. she is the author of "the price for their pound of flesh: the value of the enslaved, from womb to grave, in the building of a nation." we recorded the interview at the organization of american historians' annual meeting in philadelphia. host: 2019 marks the anniversary of the first african-american sold into slavery in the united states. where were they from? daina: they came from different parts of west africa. they were taken on a ship and captured by the dutch, been -- then captured again off a portuguese ship. when you look at the journey, there were two different points when they were on ships. host: how do we know about them? daina: we know about this from ship records. we also know about this from the virginia records. we know very little information about them but we have bits and pieces. >> what do we know? we know that they arrived and they were not listed as end slaved -- listed as enslaved, they were servants. we know that they came and they were pretty sick when i got off

ramey knows that. you know, i don't know at this point if you can really dial in an honest security plan until you really get this thing off the ground and you have some capacity and you really cut your teeth with some smaller events. i also absolutely don't want to blame you guys for an existing problem in our city, which is that neighborhood. that has absolutely nothing to do with you guys. in fact, the city has had ample opportunity to improve it and has really floundered. [please stand by] muss. seam >> -- release large numbers of -- and make their way there and back. i appreciate people's safety, but i think that's very much a solvable problem. and i'm also -- as someone who does work across the street, i'm happy to help out in any way i can with the neighborhood and what we have going on and one of the nonprofits who's working to make the neighborhood better for some of the folks in these situations. so all of that said, i think this is a great idea, and we should move forward with pr