ramirez, though not by name. president trump said this. >> oh, gee, let's not make him a supreme court judge because of that? the second accuser has nothing. the second accuser doesn't even know -- she thinks maybe it could have been him. maybe not. she admits that she was drunk. she admits time lapses. there were time lapses. this is a person and this is a series of statements that's going to take one of the most talented, one of the greatest intellects from a judicial standpoint in our country, going to keep him off the united states supreme court? >> well, tonight that's a question that for the president at least answers itself. now, in just a few moments you'll be hearing exclusively from one of the attorneys for deborah ramirez. we invited every republican member of the judiciary committee to come on the broadcast tonight, got no for an answer. right now we are joined by democratic member senator richard blumenthal of connecticut. senator blumenthal, the fact the committee has now tentatively scheduled its v

ford and debbie ramirez. but to stand up also for sandra bland and just a little girl who right now does not have food in her refrigerator and the ability to live in a safe society where gun violence is not something in her community. all of those issues must come together. if you call yourself a feminist, it cannot just be about one issue. it must represent all of our issues. [cheers and applause] and i will say to you as a black woman and a mother of a 19-year-old young black boy, that black people, black women particularly must be censored in this discussion in order for us to say that anyone is free. if black women are not free, no one is free. [cheers and applause] and i am so proud to bring someone to you today who is not just a friend who i love in general, but a trailblazer, someone new in the spirit of harriet tubman and sojourner truth and so many who came before her decided to stand up and say me too. a long time before it became popular, before the cameras showed up, before people began to talk ab

ramirez. ms. ramirez seinfeld out her allegations against brett kavanaugh in an article in the new yorker that was published this weekend. she said essentially when she was in college and brett kavanaugh was a classmate of hers as an undergraduate, he put his genitals in her face, forcing her to touch them as she tried to push him away. quoting from the new yorker, quote, i was embarrassed and ashame and humiliated. she says she remembers brett kavanaugh standing to her right and laughing, pulling up his pants. brett was laughing, she said. i can still see his face and his hips pulling forward like when you pull up your pants. she recalled another male student shouting about the incident, quote, somebody yelled down the hall, brett kavanaugh just put his penis in debbie's face. she said it was his full name. i don't think it was just brett. and i remember hearing and being mortified that this was out there. another classmate of debbie ramirez's told the new york they're while he himself was no

debbie ramirez, we see you when we believe you. anita hill, we have seen you fight for 27 years so that this wouldn't have been for anyone else. we have always believed you. since #metoo rabbi will comment naming and speaking aloud their experiences uninterrupted. the survivors sharing their pain, bravery and anger has begun to change the way survivors are heard and believed. it has led to extraordinary moments of individual accountability that seemed impossible only a few ago. get these moments of individual accountability are not the lasting change we need and deserve. this moment reminds us that the #metoo movement is a sea change in our culture. one moving every institution, workplace, schools, churches and our senate who believe us. this movement -- the survivors are more than their stories. survivors are strategists, leaders of organization. survivors are organizers and the venus to rethink how we shape every single system and what we could do differently in every step of our journey to end violence. repeat after me. from rob

the attorney for deborah ramirez stands byúher story.miss ramirez's attorney says quote, only came forward after being contacted at the new yorker and carefully worked through her memories and only to ensure her accuracy. we reached out to the senate committee to discuss a call and discuss how best to bring them of that information. they refused to meet all scheduled appointments. we have officially requested an fbi investigation and our clients remain adamant, ms. ramirez is ready to squawear toe fbi under perjury. her attorney's name is john cloone. you can hear him asking why the nate committee which is hearing the nomination for the supreme court, why they would not want to hear testimony from his client, why they would not want to receive information from his client about that nominee that they are considering. >> it does seem a little mysterious. why senate republicans are not waiting for her allegations to be heard and the white house said today basically, yeah, maybe she should testify, how about the same day that dr. ford is goi

allegados de ramÍrez defienden su credibilidad.riqueÑa, en la segunda mujer que acusa a el pues nominado por donald trump. el supuesto incidente ocurriÓ mientras ella estuvo ebria. mucho cuestionario su versiÓn por eso, pero sus amigas y colegas aseguran que dice la verdad. >> es una persona, cuando esa dice algo, es la verdad. esa tiene mucha dignidad. es muy buena persona, muy buena amiga. dulce:dolores trabajÓ con ella durante seis aÑos en una organizaciÓn que ayuda vÍctimas de violencia domÉstica. >> esa quiere saber cÓmo cocinar comida de puerto rico. dulce: han surgido distintas opiniones, pero esta mujer que la conoce dice que el juez se ponÍa agresivo y beligerante cuando estaba borracho. cree que Él y su grupo social eran capaces de esas acciones. >> no tiene moral paradecidir sobre nuestras vidas y sobre nuestra salud. para nosotros es muy cÓmodo muy importante apoyar a nuestros sobrevivientes. dulce: ramÍrez no ha salido de su casa, sin embargo, hoy su abogado publicÓ que estÁn en comunicaciÓn con el comitÉ judicial del

ford and miss ramirez.emind you, 27 years ago, when professor anita hill came forward with disturbing allegations of sexual harassment by then judge thomas, the hearing that was held in the room right behind me had an fbi investigation that preceded it. and there were 20 witnesses, witnesses who were brought forward in no small part by that fbi investigation. and it didn't take months, it didn't even take weeks. there is still plenty of time for the fbi to investigate these allegations. this is about the reputation, the credibility of the supreme court. why would we want two justices on the united states supreme court who have a cloud over their service of unresolved, not fully addressed allegations of sexual assault? >> do you believe the accusations made by christine blasey ford and made by deborah ramirez? do you think they're telling the truth? >> i believe them both. and i think it's important for other senators in order to assess their truthfulness to have them testify in front of us, and to have an f

that's also the case with miss ramirez.cted to the individual who first reported this to "the hill." those reports came to "the hill" through other individuals in this yale class who were all talking about this story. dating back to when the nomination happened. not after dr. ford. >> so there were other individuals who were freshmen at yale, i guess at that time, or at yale at that time, and i think we're talking about '83, '84, if memory serves me correctly. >> '83. >> '83. who had heard about this incident at the time? >> exactly so. so, you know, obviously, with all of these stories, we are extraordinarily careful. judge kavanaugh deserves fairness. the alleged survivor of this incident deserves fairness. that was her request. and it's always our commitment. the last story my co-author, jane mayer and i did, was on eric schneiderman. a prominent democrat. in both cases you look for things like were people told at the time? sexual assault is difficult to report on partly because either there's often no one in a room or i

ramirez. deborah i still believe. hill --believe i need a ill.ill believe anita h i believe survivors. i believe survivors. next we have a speaker from the national center for transgender equality. [applause] >> thank you, everybody. half ofe today because transgender americans are survivors. .alf those are the findings of a national survey of 28,000 transgender americans that my organization conducted. one of our respondents said, by university didn't do anything to help me. instead, they threatened to punish me. i lived in terror the entire time i was on campus. trans survivors know how much is at stake for all of us and what happens here now in washington. so many transgender people know what it is not to be believed about who we are or about what happened to us. so many transient to people -- transgender people know what it is to be told that what they know to be true is false, and that anyway, it's their fault. we heard from survivors who were told by officials that it was their fault for "trying to be a woman."

ford and deborah ramirez have nothing to game.ly coming forward by volunteering to be interviewed by the fbi they're putting themselves at legal risk and they have already suffered some impacts for them for and their families. it is judge kavanaugh who is seeking a lifetime appointment to the supreme court. and who i think now bears the burden of disproving these allegations rather than dr. ford and ms. ramirez who should be dismissed with slanderous accusations. >> michael avenatti has claimed he has more victims. has he reached out to the committee or have you reached out to michael avenatti? >> i have not reached out to michael avenatti. if he's got further evidence he should come forward promptly. >> and the other question, if kavanaugh is confirmed would you move ahead to try and impeach him or investigate him if democrats retake control of the senate? >> well, the senate as you know doesn't impeach it's the house that impeaches and then the senate that renders the decision one way or the other. i think it's a question for an

ramirez. it's ms. swetnick.e got to be able to fully investigate and vet their claims as well. because it sheds light on wloor whether or not dr. ford is telling the truth and whether or not judge kavanaugh is telling the truth. to rein in the fbi is not allowing them to do their jobs and not to actually get to the truth of the matter. they need to go further and follow-up on whatever investigative leads they have. >> "the new york times" reports that deputy attorney general rod rosenstein told republican senator jeff flake that the one-week deadline would be feasible, but was quote, unlikely to unearth much more than was already known. what can investigators uncover given the restriction sns. >> i think the time is not as much as the witnesses. limiting the time, if they put enough manpower on this, if the fbi does, they can get this done within a one-week time period. the problem is if they limit the witnesses they're allowed to investigate. what they no. need to do is intervut the witness face to face. we've

collins wants ramirez to be heard. we will hold you over. this, more with ann coulter, including michelle obama's new get out the vote drive. don't go away. (woman) learned to play an instrument. learned a second language. applied to college. applied for a loan. started a business. started a blog. shared a picture. shared a moment. turn your wish list into a checklist. learn more. do more. share more. at home, with internet essentials. >> laura: back with me now, ann coulter. ann, if kavanaugh goes down, what happens to the republicans in the u.s. and its? >> at the huge blue wave, there is no wall. >> laura: the democrats would mike brey take the senate, take the house. >> huge blue wave. why fight for them if they want to fight for us? i say to collins, lisa murkowsk murkowski, and flake and ben sasse, pretend this is a jeb bush nominee. a lot of this has to do with them hating donald trump >> laura: he is a george w. bush guy. >> i know. it is her hatred of trump. >> laura: george w. bush should give a speech as showed anthony kennedy and

dulce castellanos hablÓ con personas que conocen a ramÍrez. >> deborah ramÍrez de 53 aÑos de ascendenciaorte suprema de apple ha maltratado universidad de yale. donde so el pin en la cara.a >> debi es una persona creÍble. >> revelÓ que el presunto excedente ocurre mientras ella estuvo ebria. esto ha hecho que muchos cuestionen su versiÓn. sin embargo, sus amigas y colegas de colorado asegura que estÁ diciendo la verdad. >> es una persona, cuando ella habla saber la verdad, porque ella tiene mucha dignidad y las vÍctimas de violencia domÉstica y tambiÉn el comunidad y es muy buena persona, muy buena amiga. >> dolores trabajÓ con ella durante seis aÑos en una organizaciÓn que ayuda a vÍctima de valencia domÉstica y dice que en este tiempo compartieron interÉs por la cultura puertorriqueÑa. >> ella quiere saber cÓmo cocinar comida de puerto rico mucho mÁs. >> han surgido versiones contradictorias en cuanto la supuesta agresiÓn, pero jeans, quien compartiÓ un dormitorio con brett kavanaugh en la universidad dijo en un comunicado que brett kavanaugh se ponÍa agresivo cuando estaba borracho .

collins wants ramirez to be heard. we will hold you over. more on this, more with ann coulter, including michelle obama's new get out the vote drive. don't go away. >> laura: back with me now ann coulter. ann, if kavanaugh goes down what happens to the republicans in the u.s. senate? >> it's a huge blue wave, there is no wall. >> laura: the democrats win. they take the senate, take the house. >> huge blue wave. why fight for them if they want to fight for us? i say to collins, lisa murkowski, and flake and ben sasse, pretend this is a jeb bush nominee. a lot of this has to do with them hating donald trump. >> laura: he is a george w. bush guy. >> i know. it is their hatred of trump. >> laura: george w. bush should give a speech as should anthony kennedy and frankly the chief justice. i think john roberts should come out and say this is an attack on the judiciary. no one is going to be want to be nominated to a federal court in the future. who would? who wants to be nominated? >> who wants to run as a republican? this is why you and i voted f

and that ramirez at first was not sure it was kavanaugh who exposed himself. but the magazine notes, "after six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections to say that she remembers it was kavanaugh." reporter jane mayer insists there is corroboration for ramirez's story. >> we found somebody who remembers hearing about it that night or the next day. unlike the people at the party, he was very sober, and remains a very distinguished person. he's on background. and i asked him myself, "are you sure this was brett kavanaugh that you heard about?" he said, "i am 100% sure." >> reporter: it all comes as judge kavanaugh and dr. christine blasey ford prepare to testify on capitol hill. dr. ford says kavanaugh sexually assaulted her in high school. >> i am not questioning and have not questioned that perhaps dr. ford at some point in her life was sexually assaulted by someone in some place. but what i know is i've never sexually assaulted anyone. >> reporter: president tru

ramirez. is that correct? >> yes. >> all three of these women have asked the fbi to investigate their claims. your concernou is evident. and if you are confident of your position and you appear to be, why aren't you also asking the fbi - - fbi to investigate? >> i will do whatever the committee wants i want to hearing the day after the allegation cameth up i wanted to be here that day. instead ten days past after all the nonsense like i'm in gangs or on boats in rhode island, colorado, they are cited all over the place and watch breathlessly r by cable news. i wanted to hearing the next day. my family was destroyed by the senator. destroyed. whatever the committee decides. i am all in. immediately. >> the terrible part of this is when we get an allegation we are not in a position to prove it or disprove it so we have to depend on outside authorities. it would just seem to me when these allegations came forwar forward, that you would want the fbi to investigate these claims and clear it up once and for all. u >

but men rarely do those types of things when other girls are around. >> lynn, the ramirez, debbie ramirezhest court in our country, there can be no blurring of truth and falsehood. there can be no alternative facts. we need somebody who stands by truth and justice. >> and lynn, certainly there are dozens of other yale people who certainly saw the same thing you did at the same parties. they're not coming forward. what made you decide that you couldn't just sit back when you heard brett kavanaugh say these things? >> well, i tend to agree with liz that it's really important for people that feel that there's a need for truth in today's dialogue to come forward and speak out. our judicial system is based on the foundation of truth, and if you can't believe a federal judge or a supreme court justice in what they say, then where really is our judicial system, and that's why i got angry when i saw how brett characterized himself in the fox news interview, because it is not consistent. it is not truthful, and there is not a separate reality of alternative facts. people need to speak truth to pow

then, we have had some comment about why we didn't investigate ramirez. when i learned of miss ramirez allegations, i acted immediately to investigate them, unlike our democratic colleagues, some of whom sat on their story and conducted their own private investigation rather than share it. >> mr. chairman, excuse me for interrupting. can we have order? >> i would agree on the order. the order is we go back and forth. apparently you can have two republicans speak and one democrat. is that what -- >> that's what -- absolutely. after i get done, i'm not giving an opening statement. i'm explaining, as a chairman ought to explain the work of the committee to people who don't seem to understand it. i'll call on senator hatch when i'm done, then you senator leahy. when i learned of miss ramirez's allegations, i acted immediately to investigate them, unlike our democratic colleagues some of who sat on her story and conducted their own private investigation rather than share it with the chairman. i first learned of her allegations when they became public in the ar

this time from 53-year-old deborah ramirez. telling "the new yorker" during a drunken dorm roam party in 1983 or '84 when she and kavanaugh were freshmen kavanaugh exposed himself to her. ramirez who acknowledges she had been drinking to the point of being foggy and slurring her words say i remember genitals being in front of my face, i knew that's not what i wanted. ramirez says she pushed the man away saying i was embarrassed and ashamed and humiliated. she says she remembers kavanaugh next to her pulling up her pants, brett was laughing, i can still see his face. ramirez said somebody yelled down the hall brett kavanaugh put his nays in debbie's face. i remember hearing and being mortified that this was out there. "the new yorker" reports that two of the male classmates who ramirez alleged were involved and the wife of the third all dispute ramirez's account as does kavanaugh who said in a new statement overnight this alleged event from 35 years ago did not happen. the people who knew me then know that this did not happen an

. >> should deborah ramirez, the new kavanaugh accuser, be allowed to testify? >> if she would like to, she can certainly contact the chairman of the senate judiciary committee. they have a process in place. obviously they've mailed tremendous unpress dentsed accommodations for miss ford to testify on thursday. judge kavanaugh has been willing to testify publicly to what he has said privately under oath from day one. less than 24 hours after he was made aware of the identity of miss ford, he said he would raise histestify add to his 30-plus hours of testimony. i thought that his comment last night about the second so-called accuser is incredibly instructor. he's calling this a smear campaign. indeed, starting to feel like a vast left wing conspiracy. "the new york times" said they interviewed dozens of people over the last couple weeks, trying to verify the second accusation. they couldn't go ford with the reporting. not because they're supportive of president trump's nominee but because they have some standards. this fact, "the new york times" also reports that

ramirez allegation.y were not able get anyone to drawing rate icorroborate ito know the republican and the white house is saying that's the reason to suthey can this may not be true. how do you answer. >> i want to correct the correspondence what she said earlier. the "new york times" did noto pass on this . they did not decline to run this story. they've come out publicly hand said this is a case as is very often a case with big stories a lot of publications chased it. the times was among the ones that aggressively pursued deborah ram his an ramirez to se declined. she wanted to work with aru reporter shested. that's why they couldn't corroboratthat. clearly we found other corroborators. we also say we made dozenses of calls and there were many people who didn't recall this or didn't respd for comments. have been extremely careful to disclose all of that up front. >> woodruff: yo tu mentie senate found out about this democratic senators, republican staffers in the senate.kn d yo the state of the investi

que sabemos de deborah ramirez?en la pretigiosa universidad de yale.hoy en dia tiene 53 aqos, esta registrada como ella tiene 53 aÑos, estÁ registrada como demÓcrata, trabaja junto a una entidad que brindaÉstica. desde el 2007 estÁ casada con un ingeniero. carolina: fijate, en esta informaciÓn, en una fotografÍa que acompaÑa esta acusaciÓn en la revista the newyorker ha llamado la atenciÓn que deborah ramÍrez aparece con esta camisa que dice: puerto rico, en la fotografÍa que circula en las redes sociales. borja: vamos a cambiar de tema porque el abogado michael aventi estÁ exigiendo que testifican en el senado un amigo de juventud del juez kavanaugh. amigo que rehÚsa a declarar en las audiencias, tambiÉn dice que representa a una tercera mujer con informaciÓn delicada. esto es lo que tuiteÓ: represento a una mujer con informté y que el juez y otros sean citados a declarar. la nominaciÓn debe ser retirada. carolina: el gobierno dio a conocer medidas antiinmigrantes que tendrÍan una profunda repercusiÓn en la vida de

ramirez's allegations. i regret that my democratic colleagues again failed to timely bring this relevant information to his attention. the article makes clear that some democratic senators have known of ms. ramirez's allegations for some time. and it quotes one democratic member of the committee as saying this allegation, quote, should be fully investigated, end of quote. that is exactly what i have done and what could have been done easier if senate democrats had not kept the information to themselves. and then my last one will deal with the swetnick allegations. two days ago, we became aware of the allegations of julie swetnick. she claimed that judge kavanaugh was involved in a gang rape ring around washington, d.c. area in the 1980s. my staff has been trying to obtain evidence of her claims, o and interview her since sunday, three days before she made her allegation public. but her attorney has so far not cooperated in the investigation. by the accuser's own description, she regularly attended parties w

brett was laughing," ramirez told the new yorker."i can still see his face, and his hips coming forward, like when you pull up your pants."cnn has not spoken to anyone so far who is willing to corroborate ramirez's story.and kavanaugh denies the allegations... calling them "smears, pure and simple" in the letter to congress today.with top republican leaders on capitol hill renewing their push to move forward.sen. mitch mcconnell/(r) majority leader: "even by the far andards, this shameful smear campaign has hit a new low."president trump is standing by kavanaugh. president donald trump: "there's a chance that this could be one of the single most unfair, unjust things to happen to a candidate for anything, but i am with judge kavanaugh."dismissing the allegations - after white house officials huddled with kavanaugh over the weekend. president donald trump:"for people to come out of the woodwork from 36 years ago and 30 years ago, and never mentioned it, all of a sudden it happens, in my opinion it's totally political."that argument ech

ford is saying and now what debbie ramirez is saying. over the last 12 to 14 hours, and that's significant. before that, you did a series of interviews where you said that what clarence thomas was accused of doing happened in the workplace as a professional in the years very soon before he was nominated to a supreme court seat and that what happens in high school should be treated differently. you did feel that way before last night? >> i absolutely -- and i still feel that we have to be very careful, we need to be -- we, as in those of us who support the me too movement, we need to be deliberate and judicious before we start applying labels, before we call someone a sexual predator, i want to make sure we are actually hitting the mark. and i was not convinced that a one-time encounter with a drunken 17-year-old fit that bill. yes, drunken 17-year-olds can make bad decisions but they can then move into become mature, productive, respectful citizens. but in this particular case, the difference was that with clarence thomas, we were talkin

mostly he says he wants to back up debbie ramirez. >> all right. wayne freedman, reporting live in berkeley. thanks so much. >>> calls to the national assault hotline spiked after christine blasy ford accused brett kavanaugh of sexual assault. there was a 57% increase in calls friday to sunday. the rape, abuse, and incest national network runs the hotline and says the victim service program is now helping about 22,000 people per month. stories like this can bring up emotions and trigger some memories. to find your ally, go to our website, abc7news.com/takeaction. there are links to resources on sexual assault and harassment. >>> a man accused of being the norcal rapist came face to face with two women. carlos spoke with some of waller's accusers at court today. >> reporter: roy charles waller shook his head as a judge read him the 12 counting he's been charged with. >> he needs to be locked up until he learns what it is to be a human. roseland anderson escaped from the rapist in 1997. >> i was the only one who saw his face for a really long time, a

ramirez's concerns and accusations. i want to move to your russia piece because apparently all you do is work how russia helped swing the election for trump tell us about your reporting there. >> this is actually just -- it's a piece that's based on a new book called "cyber bar" by kathleen hall jameson who is the head of the annenberg center on public policy at penn. it's an interesting book she goes sort of where others have feared to tread she's gone back over the 2016 campaign, looked at all of the data, she's got polls of her own and all kinds of analysis and concluded that as she said to me that she doesn't think trump would be president without the help of the russian interference in the election. >> all right jane mayer, thank you very much for being on this morning. we really appreciate t a lot going on. >> thank you. >>> and still ahead on "morning joe," deputy attorney general rod rosenstein denies the ex below testify "new york times" report that he discussed a plan to remove the president from office we wil

the piece in "the new yorker," which you also work for, and the substance of the allegations says ramirez says when she was a freshman in college brett kavanaugh thrusts his gentles in her face and caused her to touch them. he denies it and the white house denies it. on the substance, what do you make of it? >> what is striking about the allegation, it's similar in atmospherics to the high school allegation. the excessive drinking and the coercive relationship with women. if you read mark judge, the alleged accomplice in the first assault, the world he describes at georgetown prep, absurd amounts of drinking, and weird hostility towards women. it's all consistent with one another. are they all lies? perhaps, but it certainly has a ring of truth to me, and as you mentioned, reasonen and jane are colleagues of mine and they have reputations for accuracy and honesty. the question is what are people going to do with this? the idea it's all made up seems p per paus strus at this point. >> we are hearing they will make their minds up, so this is not limited to one side of the aisle. as we look

ford and ramirez's courage to speak is already an enormous step. >> i would just say thank you and weyou. we hear you and believe you. >> we see you, we hear you, we believe you. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm linda lopez in new york. ♪ oh, say can you see >> and next, a little girl with aigaking major impression. my gums are irritated. i don't have to worry about that, do i? actually, you do. harmful bacteria lurk just below the gum line. crest gum detoxify works below the gum line to neutralize harmful plaque bacteria and help reverse early gum damage. and, now there's new crest gum and enamel repair... it gives you clinically proven healthier gums and helps repair and strengthen weakened enamel. gum detoxify and gum and enamel repair, from crest. gums are good, so is my check-up! crest. healthy, beautiful smiles for life. ♪ ♪ if it feels like you live in the bathroom with recurring constipation and belly pain, talk to your doctor and say yesss! to linzess. yesss! linzess treats adults with ibs with constipation or chronic constipation. linzess can help relieve your belly pain, a

ramirez lawyer, the judiciary committee isn't even interested in taking a claim seriously are getting information from her about her claim. instead of getting the facts, instead of watching the facts, they try to dismiss this as a smear campaign and plow right ahead. for anyone who has ever wondered why so many survivors of sexual assault don't come forward. obviously this. but there is also the fear of this very kind of retaliation and t scoring. mr. president, the question i have but i know you have come into a value women in this country? do we value women in this country? do we listen to women when they tell us about trauma. do we listen to their stories about how their lives have been forever scarred? do we take the claim seriously or do we just disbelieve them a? a matter of course. i want to echo the words of my colleagues from alaska. this is about whether women -- whether or not a woman who has an effect than at some point in her life is to be believed. i believe dr. blasey ford. here's why i believe her. she's risked everything. her road safety, to come out on the record to

ramirez seems believable.will become a very different question. >> speaking of senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, he was speaking at the values voter summit on friday and had high praise for brett kavanaugh and assured the crowd that he will be on the supreme court. >> you're all following the current supreme court fight. and you will watch it unfold. in the course of the next week. president trump has nominated a stunningly successful individual. you've watched the fight. you've watched the tactics, in the ver knew future, very near future, judge kavanaugh will be on the united states supreme court. >> back in july, "the new york times" reported that according to republican officials, senator mcconnell had been pushing for two other nominees. reportedly telling the president, judges rammond kethledge and thomas hardiman presented the fewest obstacles to be confirmed to replace justice kennedy to the supreme court. and judge brett kavanaugh would pose difficulties for his confirmation. and betsy this figh

another women, deborah ramirez, agree to tell her story after being contacted by a reporter. again, risking her career and her safety, said that brett kavanaugh exposed himself to her face in college while laughing as part of a game. these accusations are disturbing enough by themselves, but response to these allegations colleagues are so disappointing. take a look at how dr. blasey ford is being bullied because she told her story. listen to how she is being patronized and dismissed by some members of the judiciary committee.t look at how our president belittled and demeaned dr. blasey ford and ms. ramirez, reminding us once again that he has been credibly accused of committing sexual assault himself and denigrates not just women who accuse him, but survivors everywhere. that's not all. the chief counsel of the senate judiciary committee tweeted after dr. blasey ford sexual assault allegation, quote, unfazed and determined, we will confirm judge kavanaugh. and according to ms. ramirez is lawyer, the judiciary committee interested in taking her claim seriously or getting infor

ramirez that came out after the deal was struck. now you have two accusers, and there needs to be a search for the truth to either clear kavanaugh's name or to corroborate these women's accounts. the problem is this is a political process. senator hirono on the left and lindsey graham on the right have said their minds are made up. that's why the swing senators will be so important in the selection of this swing justice. politics -- >> what happens then, john? >> there should be a delay, a proper investigation. they should open it to other witnesses, particularly mark judge, who is one of the rare cases where you have a situation that occurred a long time ago, unprecedented in the date timeline, but there's a third party allegedly in the room. why would you not want to hear that person's point of view? that's in the interest of clearing kavanaugh's name or corroborating these women's accounts. behind it all is payback for merrick garland, the clinton standard that judge kavanaugh was involved in, where sexual indiscorrections were u

i do believe deb bie ramirez's account.e forward and lie, but that's not behavior i witnessed from brett kavanaugh. >> liz, what was your reaction to debbie ramirez's story. >> yeah, well, that was very upsetting because i do believe debbie. she is very honest. she was an innocent person, but i was not able to corroborate that because, again, i wasn't there. but men rarely do those types of things when other girls are around. >> and, lynne, the ramirez, debbie ramirez's accusation is something that presumably the fbi will take a look at this week. do you suppose they'll be able to find anyone who might be a witness to that? >> well, she does recall people in the room and there were certainly people that were referenced in "the new yorker" article although their names weren't given. i could determine who they were and hopefully they will speak truthfully to the fbi. >> liz, you see a college friend on his way to as big a job as you can get really, and he starts talking about his drinking publicly and he understates it. why w

miss ramirez said she had gasps in memory. the "new york times" calling people: do you remember because i am not sure? >> exactly. >> it's clear what's going on here. so -- >> i did mention that particular new york post cover of you. >> for the constitution applies to illegals, it applies to criminals, murderers, but it doesn't apply to a man who has dedicated his life to the pursuit of justice, a man who, no woman in the last i don't know how many decades has set a bad word about him, and all of a sudden we have the left that is using words to bring socialism and energy to this country. ekei will ask one question, i would like to know how many united states senators are willing to change the standards of justice against them to accusation without corroboration? i guarantee you if we start and go down that road, things will change. >> you had a very powerful column today. you rushed to a similar but different points that you say that they can't let these delay tactics. dianne feinstein had this package a lot. they said you sho

cnn has not corroborated ramirez's claim... and her lawyers told cnn "no comment" when asked to confirm the details in the new yorker's story.the new york times reports it has interviewed several dozen people over the past week and could find no one with first-hand knowledge of the alleged sexual misconduct.the president continues to defend his nominee.president donald trump:"judge kavanaugh's an outstanding person and i am with him all the way //for people to come out of the woodwork from 36 years ago and 30 years ago and never mentioned it, all of a sudden it happens, in my opinion it's totally political. it is totally political."natson capitol hill protests erupted outside senators' offices... including republican susan collins, a key undecided vote, whose aide tried to appease demonstrators.(nats)the plan is still to move forward with thursday's testimony from judge kavanaugh and christine blasey ford... the first woman who accused him of sexual assault.chairman chuck grassley's spokesman says the committee will also look i

ramirez seems believable.t will become a very different question. >> speaking of senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, he was speaking at the values voter summit on friday and had high praise for brett kavanaugh and assured the crowd that he will be on the supreme court. >> you're all following the current supreme court fight. and you will watch it unfold. in the course of the next week. president trump has nominated a stunningly successful individual. you've watched the fight. you've watched the tactics, in the ver knew future, very near future, judge kavanaugh will be on the united states supreme court. >> back in july, "the new york times" reported that according to republican officials, senator mcconnell had been pushing for two other nominees. reportedly telling the president, judges rammond kethledge and thomas hardiman presented the fewest obstacles to be confirmed to replace justice kennedy to the supreme court. and judge brett kavanaugh would pose difficulties for his confirmation. and betsy this fi

i think her allegation deserves to be investigated just like deborah ramirez and just like dr.d. i think this whole process, one thing that the gop senators and trump, they don't want to do is continue to say to women that your stories don't matter. and think that was such a defining moment for senator flake, when he raised his head in that elevator, when the women asked him to look at them in the eyes. i think that what's they're saying, look at us as women. listen to our stories. believe our stories. give us an opportunity to be heard. so i can think of no legal reason. obviously there's some time constraints. but there's no legal reason that julie swetnik should not be included in this investigation. >> how problematic is it if she is not included, given that the president has already expressed via tweet and other ways his disdain for the attorney, michael avenatti, who is representing swetnik? if she is not included in this scope, how could it not look political? >> i imagine at some point avenatti will get a call. but it's really for the fbi at this point to decide if an a

what we do know is ramirez, she lives in boulder, colorado. she actually works as a victims advocate of domestic violence. she went to undergrad with kavanaugh from 1983 to 1987. this happened while -- during their freshman year at a dorm room party. so as this allegation, new allegation comes out, think the big question here in washington is how does this ill pact his confirmation, especially as it's on the eve of kavanaugh testifying about his first -- this first woman who came out and alleges sexual assault against him. >> all of this happening as we thought we got some clarity about testimony about kavanaugh's initial accuser. right now, the plan is for her and kavanaugh, just the two of them, to testify before the senate judiciary committee on thursday. i want to bring in msnbc's garrett haake live on the hill. is that still the plan? because she's now the first accuser. if we have a second, what exactly does that mean? does that put thursday in question or suddenly do we have another person in the mix? >> well, thursday is still the plan

in it ramirez accused kavanaugh of exposing himself to her at a party. her claims add to the allegations from christine blasey ford who said kavanaugh assaulted her when they were teenagers. in a staple today kavanaugh said he will -- statement today kavanaugh said he will not back down. he writes, "i will not be in dim take thed into withdrawing from this -- intimidated into withdrawing from this process." ford is scheduled to appear at a senate judiciary hearing thursday, but some democrats including senator dianne feinstein say the hearing should be delayed. she said a letter to the committee chairman republican chuck grassley. "i am writing to ask for a postponement of the proceedings and that you have the fbi investigate the allegations of christine blasey ford as well as these new claims." senator grassley said he's looking into the new claims but has no plans to postpone thursday's hearing and today republican majority majority leader mitch mcconnell said there will be a vote to move forward on kavanaugh. >> this fine nominee for the supreme court

ramirez eight different times and you've not made her available.ve been sent the e-mail ex-changes, and we talked about this two nights ago. essentially, the republicans on the committee were asking you specifics on exactly what your client is alleging, if there's anything else that wasn't in "the new yorker" piece, and any other details before they would even agree to have a conference call with you. you were insisting on having a conference call before giving any more information. is that about accurate? >> kind of. we just put those documents out, as well. so if anybody wants to see them, they can read through the e-mails, as well. as you can see initially in the communication, we're looking to figure out how our client can have a meaningful participation in this process. everybody wants to set up a phone call, and suddenly we get an e-mail saying that they need to hear more information about what her evidence is, which not that she's even the investigator, but we said we want to talk about this, what is going to happen, what is the process goin

quote, for ramirez, the sudden attention has been unwelcome. she was at first hesitant to speak publicly, but ramirez is now calling for the fbi to investigate kavanaugh's role in the incident. quote, i would think an fbi investigation would be warranted, she said. so once again we're back in the position of wondering why republicans in the senate and why the white house are insisting that the fbi must not be allowed to lock at this. as part of their background investigation into kavanaugh. the fbi looks into allegations of sexual misconduct and all sorts of different kinds of misconduct as a matter of course when they do background investigations. that's what background investigations are for. why the white house insists that brett kavanaugh must be exempt from that process here, that was a hard thing to explain before there were multiple allegations against him. now it seems almost like a shortsighted thing, a shortsighted way for them to have approached this. right. imagine this having gone a different way, right? first allegation comes up.

so they're keeping ramirez pretty far away. what do you make of this dr. jekyll and mr. hyde description of the guy's roommate, judge kavanaugh? >> yeah, well, you know, i think it's part of the mix of -- we've got people who say, no, i -- we've got people who say, no, this isn't the way he behaved. >> it's his roomy. >> it's his roommate. that is a pretty close associate. >> by the way, you would have a little room -- i would think in the interest of justice i'd try to tell the truth in courts and would but you would feel a little bit hesitant to trash the guy you were a roommate with when he has one chance to become supreme court justice and you know that your testimony publicly like this may kill him. >> it runs the same risk these women have stepping forward, that you'll be the target of attack. this is the first thing they'll know about you when they google your name. >> i don't think republicans are misjudging the women, they're making a calculated decision that it is so important to so e solidify a conservative that they

we should say we don't know that they've set down yet with deborah ramirez.derstanding is they have reached out. importantly deborah ramirez has said publicly when she spoke out to the "new yorker" that she expects them to investigate. >> and deborah ramirez is a yale college classmate of judge brett kavanaugh. let me ask you, shane, about the mandate. i'm going to read from the statement. it says the supplemental fbi background investigation would be limited to current credible allegations against the nominee and must be completed no later than one week from today. current credible allegations, who decides what those are? >> that's a good question. i think the fbi would have to find them credible to even spend time looking at them. we should emphasize here, too, this is not an investigation meant to determine who is right, who is wrong, whether charges should be brought. this is simply to add material to the background investigation that the file that the senate white house and judiciary committee has in front of them when the senate is ultimately weighing i