back with charles ramsey, andrew mccabe and juliette.h at this point is about the motive of the individual or individuals involved in this and how much is simply, you know, dealing with witnesses, dealing with fatalities or injuries if there are any and just dealing with the crime scene itself? >> sure, so initially of course, it's about stopping the violence, right? clearly, we seem to be beyond that point with this scene so now it about kind of clearing the scene, making sure there is no more shooting and tactical teams go through that location like with a fine tooth comb and search every inch for additional people, shooters, victims that kind of thing and then you're trying to get aid to any victims who need to be, you know, seek medical attention, that sort of thing and then you start thinking about processing that crime scene. so you are really a good ways away from really digging in on a thorough investigation of the shooter or shooters involved, and so over the days that follow, i suspect most of our conversations will be about ju

chief ramsey, what do you think? what's your final reaction? >> well, things will start to unfold slowly, i am not surprised there has not been a real press conference yet. the information is sketchy depends on the complexity of the scene, how many injured or dead you may have there. the one individual you are assuming he was under arrest you may or may not be arrested, you may have another person there that's a suspect, we just don't know. what they're trying to do is sort out or they can give you as much real information as they can. it will be preliminary information. it won't be anything that may not change a little later as the investigation progresses. >> right, as we talk about so often the information coming out in the early field report. it is inaccurate because things are chaotic and they're trying to sort through all the information. we are hoping to find out more, chief ramsey and phil mudd, thank you very much. i am pamela brown, thank you for watching. our breaking news coverage continues right now with erin burnett "outfront." >>

chief ramsey, this is knot a small operation.y got here, they were extremely organized. >> well, you know, they train for this. active shooter training, departments across the country undergo that training and we learn from columbine that you can't just wait for the swat team to show up. you know, the first responders are going to be the men and women out there on patrol you can't randomly shoot people. difficult to tell from this but clearly, that's what the training entails. >> right. yeah, no, we can't tell from this and i would presume after this video was filmed, the person who filmed it went up to the entrance, right, and that's when you saw the other video of it that we showed viewers with the motionless body where you heard the shot. tim, let me just give you one more question here as a final word. what do you expect to hear first from the i would presume the commander first speaking. >> obviously, the first and most important thing is information on the suspect, if they're still at large or been apprehended. put the comm

chief ramsey, were you going to say something? >> as far as the whole notion of the crowd being hostile, they were upset but still complying with the officers. they told them get back up on the curb, they got back up on the curb. hostile crowds don't do that. that's another indication. how hostile can they possibly be when you give an order, even under those circumstances and they still supply. >> we're going to take another quick break. trust us. you're not missing anything. a judge issued a five-minute delay. it's longer than that. we'll go to our omar jimenez when we come back from the break on the ground in minneapolis to get a sense of the kwlor inside the courtroom. we'll be right back. it's moving day. and while her friends are doing the heavy lifting, jess is busy moving her xfinity internet and tv services. it only takes about a minute. wait, a minute? but what have you been doing for the last two hours? ...delegating? oh, good one. move your xfinity services without breaking a sweat. xfinity makes moving easy. go online

this warning comes from dr mary ramsey, of public health - mary ramsey, of public health england. says it might be a long period of time until life can return to normal in the uk, she said we might have to live with less sever restrictions so mask wearing, social distancing rules for a few years, as she put it. interesting she was asked what is the single biggest risk to the vaccination programme in the uk, and she said it is the rise of the variants or mutations of the disease, in other countries, scientists are particularly concerned about one first discovered in south africa, now looks like it might be spreading in france and other european country, some it could make a vaccine less effective dr ram say saying we don't want to jeopardise the successful roll out of vaccines here by allowing them to circulate. she was asked could this impact summer holidays, she said look, it is too early to say, how this could impact everything going forward this summer. jim reed, thanks very much. buckingham palace is reviewing its diversity policies in all of the royal households. palace sourc

chief ramsey, very limited information so far. some folks there in the crowd seem frustrated by it, but it's certainly understandable that they would want to make sure that all families have been notified at this point. i wonder what stands out to you from what you heard. >> well, i mean, it wasn't very much information, but let me start by first saying, my heart goes out to all those family members of the victims in this tragic incident that just took place. but there's information that just personally, it's hard to be critical at a time like this, but you know, we didn't even get a timeline. you know, when did the call come in? that sort of thing. when you -- when you say, you know, there are multiple fatalities, you have to assume that they're going to ask, some reporter is going to say how many. but to say i don't know, you know, i just -- i think it could have been handled a little better, let me put it that way. you have to know. if anything, you have to check for signs of life when you go in to make sure that you get someon

>> yes, totally. >> laura coates and charles ramsey back with us now. laura, as we listen to that description i didn't feel a connection. he said at least twice that i counted i called the police on the police. i mean, those words chosen, i think, very carefully for mr. williams in terms of how he is laying out that moment and recalling that moment. >> absolutely. i mean, the idea that he had tried multiple times, and we hear him trying multiple times in the opening statement, they played the video, we had the teenager who now testified talking about what she heard, the constant and consistent imploring of these officers to show and demonstrate some humanity to render aid and he's saying, look, i couldn't -- i didn't see a human connection with the officers on the scene, and having that corroborate testimony from yesterday, where somebody else, somebody who was in law enforcement, a 911 dispatcher also seeing what she saw and deciding to bring in law enforcement in the form of a sergeant. so you're seeing as the prosecution developing different layers h

i think commissioner ramsey is exactly right.the most important things, difficult things for a criminal defense lawyer to do is pick your battle. you don't have to fight back against every little thing here. i think the defense's best argument is going to be the technical ones, the causation. the arguments between different medical examiners over the autopsy. who cares if george floyd was resisting five minutes, ten minutes, 15 minutes before derek chauvin put his knee in his neck. it's not relevant. i think when you make arguments like that, you undermine your own credibility with the jury. if i'm defending this case, i'm not making that argument. >> gentlemen, stand by. any moment now the chauvin murder trial is about to resume. we will see more witnesses testify and take you back to minneapolis live to the courthouse when that happens. >>> also ahead, president biden will deliver his speech on the major infrastructure plan. we have details next. (vo) the subaru outback. dog tested. dog approved. there's a world where every one

chief ramsey, you spent a life time in law enforcement. want to play for you something the defense said it's s4. i want to get your reaction to what they're saying about derek chauvin's training. >> and you will learn that derek chauvin did exactly what he had been trained to do over the course of his 19-year career. the use of force is not attractive. but it is a necessary component of policing. >> chief ramsey, do you think that derek chauvin was doing simply what he had been trained to do by law enforcement? is that anything resembling standard protocol for police officers? >> no, it's not. first of all, use of force isn't pretty to look at. there's no question about that. i've reviewed thousands of use of force cases in my career in the last decade or so. many of them have video associated with it. and what i do when i look at those cases from the moment of the initial contact to the conclusion of the event, you look at if an officer is using force was it necessary? was it proportional? was it objective or reasonable rather during the

okay, charles ramsey. i want to ask you about how the defense is attempting to play this, particularly as it comes to police training. this is what his defense team said about officer chauvin -- former officer chauvin's actions. i want to get your reaction. >> derek chauvin is exactly what he had been trained to do over the course of his 19-year career. the use of force is not attractive. but it is a necessary component of policing. >> charles ramsey, you led police departments in washington and philadelphia and your experience, are police trained to apply that kind of force for that length of time? right? does that sound familiar to any training you received? >> no. the only part of his statement that is accurate is that use of force is not something that is pretty to look at that's true. but when you look at these things, i reviewed thousands, literally thousands of use of force cases in my career in the last ten years or so video is very, very common to have as part of the investigative package. when yo

police chief charles ramsey. so good to have both of you on. i'm going to start with you, andrew.he house is cancelling the session because of the potential plot to breach the capitol. we are told there is concerning intelligence, and that's a quote, about the new -- the next few days, i should say. how do you assess the threat level? >> well, don, i think what you're seeing here is a very understandable kind of re-calibration of the law enforcement community to what they are hearing in publicly available chatter in social media groups, things like that. a lot of criticism about how they handled some of that same sort of chatter leading up to the january 6th riot, and i think what you're seeing now is an over abundance of caution. folks are taking that sort of information very seriously. they're passing it along to congressional leadership, and everybody is taking the sort of precautions that had we done that on january 6 or on january 5th, we may have been in a much better situation. so i think it's a responsible way to handle this information. >> andrew, you still have republica

. >>> now let's bring in cnn law enforcement analyst and veteran police chief charles ramsey along with cnn senior legal analyst and former federal prosecutor laura coates. laura, the suspect has been charged with ten counts of first degree murder. how serious is that charge and could more charges be added? do you expect that? >> these are by far the most serious charges at a state level. you have the idea of up to life in prison. just last year colorado abolished the death penalty so that's not on the table, but i absolutely believe there will be more charges coming depending on how many shots were fired, the ideas of whether there are attempted murder cases as well. this is a first degree premeditated murder charge and ten of them, meaning this was thought to be in advance, it wasn't reactionary or self-defense. it was premeditated. this is a very serious charge. but it's so early in the investigation, if there are not more charges coming out of this, i'd be astounded. >> police say they don't know what the motive is. we don't know if the suspect is talking to investigators now. how c

. >> chief ramsey, you've led the police in both d.c. and philadelphia so derrick ek chau according to the defense was doing what he was trained to do. there were standards for police behavior, right, in terms of reacting to for instance folks that are trying to arrest and do they resist arrest? tell us based on your experience when you look at this video, now more than we've seen before, frankly. 9:29, not 8:46 but 9:29 based on your experience, is there anything to justify that reaction from a police officer making an arrest or attempting to? >> no. it isn't. an officer has the authority and the right to use force to overcome resistance but only that force necessary to overcome that resistance. when you look at that video early on when you try to put mr. floyd into the car, it looks like he's resisting and they go to the other car to get him in and actually wind up pulling him through, but it does come to a point where, you know, he's under control. he's handcuffed. they get him in the prone position but itself is problematic because p

cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey is joining us, former washington, d.c. police chief, former philadelphia police commissioner. chief ramsey, this is a detailed new look at this suspect's movement, this new video that the fbi has released. what stands out to you, from what you're seeing? >> it's very good video, far better than the still photos that we saw prior to this. you can tell the way the person walks. perhaps that's a clue for someone who might know that individual. they have close-up shots of the clothing, the shoes and so forth. and also the timing. an individual walking their dog who may remember, yeah, that's me. i was walking the dog. i did see somebody. i don't know if they paid attention to them or not. certainly the fbi right now is still trying to identify a suspect. they're hoping putting that video out, coupled with a $100,000 reward will get someone to come forward. >> the suspect, you know, jon jonathan, clearly has a hoodie on, mask on. do you see anything in this video that potentially could lead to a breakthrough? >> well, listen, i

laura coates, charles ramsey, mark o'meara, thanks very much to all of you. >> thank you. >>> coming up next this hour, given the level of protest after george floyd's killing, is the country ready for the possibility, at least, of a verdict other than guilty? >>> also, covid with hospitalization soaring as much as sixfold in some states and cases rising in 24 states. can vaccinations begin to keep a lid on a coming forth surge plus the breaking news tonight, what the "new york times" is reporting about florida republican congressman matt gaetz and a federal investigation he now admits to being under. that's not all he's talking about either. details are interesting to say the least. they're ahead. keeping your oysters business growing has you swamped. you need to hire. i need indeed indeed you do. the moment you sponsor a job on indeed you get a shortlist of quality candidates from a resume data base claim your seventy-five-dollar credit when you post your first job at indeed.com/promo the harry's razor is not the same. our razors have five german engineered blades designed to stay

i think commissioner ramsey perfectly addressed that. what i do if i'm prosecuting the case at the moment they have george floyd rear handcuffed hipped his back on the asphalt i hit pause and i say all the stuff leading to this was there struggle partial struggle compliant or nornt don't matter because from this moment forward are they using the appropriate amount of force and for the next nine plus minutes do they use the appropriate amount of force? commissioner ramsey has been in this business 50 years. his statements exactly explain why it was beyond -- well beyond what was necessary and appropriate. the second big issue we are hearing is causation. the defers is going to argue somehow -- did and it defies logic and common sense somehow. that an grown man putting his entire weight on a restrain add'd man's next for 9 minutes was not the cause of death. it was overdose or something else. derek chauvin's actions do not have to be the only cause of george floyd's death. if derek's actions were one contributing cause, even if there were

. >>> with us, laura coates, cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor and charles ramsey. he led police departments in philadelphia and washington, d.c. thanks to both of you. chief ramsey, i want to start with you because the defense is taking aim at the crowd here, calling them both a distraction to the police here. therefore, perhaps responsible for, or partially responsible for the fact that they couldn't give attention to george floyd, but also even dangerous. it's remarkable argument to make given the cops are armed, right, and by the way, they have a man face down on the pavement there. but given your training, your experience, do you find this line of questioning, this line of argument at all credible? >> no, i don't. and you have video to back it up that actually shows the actions of the crowd. you can hear the audio. some of the names that were called, believe me, i've heard a whole lot worse than that over the course of my career. and i've seen hostile crowds, real hostile crowds. and that would not qualify to be considered hostile in my opinion. as far as distr

commissioner ramsey, to you. know that at some point in this trial, the minneapolis police chief will be testifying, and he is being called to testify essentially against one of his own, derek chauvin, obviously no longer a police officer but still. and just as a former officer yourself, if this were one of your former officers, how do you even begin to prepare yourself for having to testify? >> well, you just tell the truth. i've had to testify against my officers in the past that i have fired. you just go in and just answer the questions. i mean, i've never done anything as high-profile as this, but clearly, he'll probably be asked to focus on policy and on training, those two areas. it will probably be where most of the questioning will occur as far as the chief is concerned. >> and what about, elie, former officer chauvin? is there any chance he takes the stand? >> it's very, very unlikely. any criminal defendant has the option to testify if he wants. it happens fairly rarely in our system. i know in tv and m

>> laura, before i get to chief ramsey. when you heard her say what i could do, right? i couldn't do anything, felt like i should have done more but he should have done more. as former federal prosecutor you're like, that's heavy. >> that's the headline for me. that's what you use in closing. each time witnesses say things like this you're trying to pick things to use later on, compile all the things you're going to hear over several weeks. going to be a lot of testimony in between but drive home the point, whose responsibility it was to save the life. why didn't he do so, why did he act defiantly and deny people offering aid. may have to take the stand to try to explain. >> witnesses called the police on the police. 911 dispatcher, bystander, donald williams, off-duty firefighter/emt, calling the police on the police, you know, the police are right there. that's an incredible red flag that was going on, what was going on. what did you think of that? >> well, i mean there were four people wearing uniform of a police officer there, could argue were they really police off

charles ramsey is a cnn law enforcement analyst and former d.c. police chief. josh, let me begin with you on what william walker is going to tell senators under oath today and what mark millie, the chairman of the joint chiefs said which is that the pentagon acted as quickly as possible in terms of responding to the capitol. walker is saying, no, we waited three hours and 19 minutes to get the green light. >> obviously. this discrepancy is important, because there was a question after we saw for ourselves what was happening at the united states capitol. there was questions about whether reenforcements would come in. there was radio silence from officials in the immediate aftermath of the attack where we, journalists, the public, lawmakers, were trying to discern what exactly happened and what was the tick tock, the time order of events when that request went out and when it was actually approved. there's been this lingering question, was there some kind of delay perhaps driven by the white house that may have been political in nature? that is why we're trying t

let me bring in former police commissioner charles ramsey. as you're listening to all of this, and as the prosecutor said, she's calling the police on the police, what do you make of her testimony? >> well, i still early in her testimony, but i agree that right now, they're just trying to chip away at what the prosecution did. but clearly she saw something she recognized as not being standard. and she did the right thing, by contacting a supervisor and making them aware of what it is she was observing. >> the cross has resumed. let's listen back in. thanks, guys. >> the arrival time of ems is 8:28.36. am i reading that correct? so, 8:28.36, ems arrives, correct? >> correct. >> and ems didn't stay on scene, right? >> no. >> they left. and they indicated they went to 36th and park, right? >> correct. >> and they didn't go to 36th and park, did they? >> ems? that's -- that's where i believe they were. >> okay. so to your belief, they went to 36th and park because that's what they called out, correct? >> correct. >> do you recall fire having trou

elie and charles ramsey are with with me.year-old whose voice i just heard. a couple of notes i jotted down. so, she pulls up at the cup foods where all of this is happening with officer chauvin and george floyd. she hears george floyd yelling for his mother, hearing him say, i can't breathe. she gets out of the car. she has a sense it feels serious, is what she said. saw officer chauvin's knee on george floyd neck. at one point she testifies she sees officer chauvin, while the knee is on the neck, going for his mace because the crowd has formed around the scene and she testified that he was shaking it at us, she said. i was scared of chauvin. and then the other note i have from her, the paramedics arrived and finally that's when officer chauvin got up off george floyd and she said george floyd looked purple, not getting enough circulation. looked really limp. what did you think of her testimony? also, why was she not cross-examined, do you think? >> let me start with the second part of that. what we saw at the end there was

joining me now, charles ramsey and chief ramsey, look, obviously the question this morning, was this racially motivated? the "atlanta journal constitution" reports six out of the eight victims were asian. we know there's a rise in anti-asian hate crime across the country. how will you go about proving the motive? what is the investigation doing right now? >> obviously, they're probably leaning in that direction but they're combing through evidence. they'll look at his social media. i'm sure they probably already have search warrants for the vehicle, wherever he lives. look for evidence that will verify that he had a hatred towards asian-americans and once they come up with that, then they'll officially declare a motive. but until then, they're going to be reluctant to do that. they're not going to speculate on that at all. >> you know, henry as we're look at what we do know at this hour and as we heard from ryan we are expecting hopefully a press conference this morning, is there anything that has changed overnight in terms of what we're learning because i have to say it is remarkabl

. >> chief ramsey, i want to bring you in here because capitol police said they have made significant security upgrades including adding a structure and more manpower. do you feel confident they'll be prepared for whatever could happen? >> i think they'll be prepared for tomorrow. not only will the capitol police be on full alert, but certainly the metropolitan police. and you have about 5,000 national guards men that are still there. so i think tomorrow will be fine. but you can't continue in that posture forever. and so there's going to have to be some real changes in terms of security around the capitol. some physical, i know they're talking about perhaps increasing the number of personnel they have. but something has to be done on a more permanent basis because this threat isn't going to go away. and while i'm at it, i would also suggest and believe they probably have, but enhances to security around the white house. the more you harden the one target, the softer another target looks. and i think we learned on january 6 that we can no longer afford to think that something could ne

chief ramsey, they told derek chauvin to get off mr. floyd's neck.id he wasn't responsive, he was in handcuffs. he didn't do it right away. what does that tell you about the training and his state of mind about derek chauvin. >> i don't think it says a lot about the training because that's not part of the training. you can only use force necessary to effect an arrest, nothing more thant. he was already under control. he was handcuff, lying in a prone position which by itself is problematic because of asphyxiation. he was so nonshall larngts sunglasses on his head, arm on his hip. he clearly was not deeming with somebody who was actively resisting so that's going to work against the defense. going to be hard to overcome that. john, if i could real quickly throw something else in there. after listening to the testimony of those four minors, i hope they have access to mental health services at some point in time and maybe one of your reporters can find that out. that is so traumatic, and you could hear it in the voices of those children. that's somethin

charles ramsey, you heard the line of questioning to the off duty emt genevieve hansen.defense and the prosecution, what do you make of the line of questioning there? >> the defense, he just asked the one question which i thought it was going to go longer than that. the prosecution, just to clear up some of the things that were mentioned yesterday. it was really quick. i don't think it added much to what's already been heard. >> the simplest answer, the prosecution asked genevieve hansen, do you believe he, floyd, needed immediate medical attention, answered yes. as we're seeing the next witness being sworn in. laura coates, your reaction? might just have a quick moment to answer. >> well, remember, you said, course correction. you saw it there. they didn't continue on the same path they did yesterday trying to get under her skin or go forward. they decided to essentially cut the line and go on to the next person. i think they've assessed what they can get from her as a witness and as a cross. you'll see them move rapidly if there's repetitive testimony or redundancy tha

joining us to discuss, charles ramsey, d.c. police chief and philadelphia police commissioner.nks for joining us. >> thank you. >> there's a black officer who laid down his life in the face of hundreds of people, violently attacking the capitol. we heard a sitting republican senator, ron johnson, somehow say those attackers were patriotic americans, but listen to the distinction he made, and i want to get your reaction to that. what meaning are in those words. have a listen. >> i knew those were people that loved this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break the law. so i wasn't concerned. have the tables been turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i might have been a little concerned. >> so racist attackers calling black police officers the "n" word, attacking with deadly force. just fine. blm protesters would have been a threat. what do those words mean to you? >> well, senator johnson clearly is part of the problem. those comments were racist. if you ask hi

charles ramsey, i'm going to bring you in now. multiple crime scenes and jurisdictions.th the investigation and they do now have that suspect in custody, which we had up on the screen there just a short while ago. there he is right there. so they should be able to sort out a motive and whether -- and how these incidents are connected. correct? >> well, they will find a motive, no doubt about that, they will be executing search warrants. they have to get a search warrant for his vehicle, wherever he's living. they'll go through his computer, social media. and so forth. and i'm sure they'll probably determine a motive. hopefully a firearm was recovered in that vehicle because a ballistics check would definitely put him as the shooter in all three cases. so there's still a lot of work that has to be done in this case. >> let's talk here, charles. you have at least four of the people killed there, asian women. listen. we don't want to get ahead of the investigation here, but how will police determine if any of these crimes were motivated by anti-asian bias at a time when the

i mean, chief ramsey, if you were leading this police department, and we know officers are trained for this, but what kind of decision is it, right, from an officer's perspective to put your life on the line? is it instinct? and how does a police department deal with the loss of one of its own? >> it's instinct and it's training. i mean, you know, officers have to protect the lives of others. sometimes that means putting your own life at risk. and so, what that officer did was truly heroic. it took a great deal of courage but he did exactly what he was trained to do. and others that responded to the scene, would have done the same thing. so, it's -- it's tough, but you can't just let innocent people get gunned down. you've got to go after the person that's responsible. but it is traumatic. it's traumatic for an entire agency. i lost eight police officers in the line of duty during my eight years in philadelphia. it's tough. it's very tough. in fact, we had to get psychological counseling for members of our department through university of pennsylvania because it does have an impact, th

cnn analyst laura coats and cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey and former top cop in philly and d.c. and cnn legal analyst mark ome omer omerra. he said he called 911 quote because i believed i witnessed a murder. how much does testimony like that help the prosecution and influence jurors in their decision? >> it helps tremendously. particularly because it's corroborating other testimony. it not just his own gut instinct. it's not just what he perceived but builds upon what other witnesses are testifying and builds upon what was viewed in the videotape which you actually speak about is really the star witness here. it builds on the 911 dispatcher. it builds off of, again, the firefighter who testified along with the four underaged teenagers who were speaking about this very issue and that cumulation of evidence, that cumulation of weight is extraordinarily credible when he saw no human connection with the officers on scene and called 911 to help. >> mark, you've been on the other side in the courtroom on the defense, and i wonder picture if you could picture yourself there in th

chief ramsey this is the first video from inside the store. just given your experience, how does there in the black tank, george floyd, how does he appear? does he look lie the high, strung-out person that the defense is arguing that he was? >> he could very well have been high. it's difficult to tell. to me the most important part of this, for most people, the first time they saw george floyd was when he was facedown on the pavement with chauvin's knee on his neck. now they have a chance to see him before this all took place. was he aggressive against any people in the store? did he seem agitated? the answer to all of that is no. if he was high, i mean, the real point of this whole trial is whether or not chauvin was justified in the use of force over the extent the period of time. and so, you know, you can easily get distracted. the other part and the other video i think is important is when you see exactly when he was handcuffed, restrained. it was soon after the police first encountered him and took him out of the car. why is that importan

in my opinion, it's not. >> charles ramsey, laura coates, appreciate it as always. thank you both. stay close. up next, signs of a new covid surge today as the easter holiday approaches, and a warning from michigan's top doctor on a spike in cases among younger people. even kids. >>> meantime, the biden administration working on a new system for people to prove they've been vaccinated? will so-called vaccine passports be the new norm in the post-pandemic era? t” by joe esposito♪ ♪ [triumphantly yells] [ding] don't get mad. get e*trade. is now a good time for a flare-up? enough, crohn's! for adults with moderate stelara® can provi relief and is the only approved dication to reduce inflammation on and below the surfac of the intestine in uc. you, getting on thatlight? back off, uc! stelara® may increase your risk of infections, some serious, and cancer. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you have an infection... flu-like symptoms, sores, new skin growths, have had cancer, or if you need a vaccine. pres, a rare, potentially fatal brain condition, may be possible.

chief ramsey, what do you make of what you have been watching?, i mean, you have got three active crime scenes, so you've got a lot going on. it was just reported there is a person in custody, hopefully he's someone who will talk and provide more information. but with the three scenes, two jurisdictions there's an awful lot of work takes place. you've got interview witness, pull video, process the scene. i'm not a big believer in coincidence. i believe the scenes are connected. how? was it one person, a small group. could it be one person that owns all three? we don't know what the motive is yet. could be driven by hate. that's the what investigators will be focused on. butted the as of having three shootings within a short period of time, all spas all within a radius of, let's say, 60 miles happening on the same day, i mean, that's not likely to have happened. >> how -- the at this early stage in an investigation, how important is motive? is that something that becomes of interest later on, or is that integral to the early stages? >> well, i mea

chief ramsey, let me start with you. i want to start with what the boulder police department is dealing with right now, dealing with the loss of one of their own and while investigating arguably the most high-profile case in the country or at least one of them. how does the department manage those factors? >> well, it's a very difficult situation to be in. there's no question about that. you certainly want to pay all honors to the fallen officer. at the same time you have a job to do in terms of dealing with the mass shooting that took place. as far as the officer goes, there is protocol in place by departments. they have full honors funeral which is what you're seeing take place. there are a procession that's about to begin. that's all part of that, and it's to pay honor to that officer and the officer's family for the service and for the sacrifice, but it's also a way of -- for the department to grieve because those officers are grieving as well and going through that process is a way in which they can start to begin t

bring back our cnn contributors, laura coates and chief charles ramsey.t with the point omar just closed with there. to the floyd family, to those who kneeled down outside, to many watching around the united states, this is about more, more, it begins, of course, with the tragic unnecessary death of one man but it's about trying to see will finally justice be served, will finally a white police officer be convicted for something that your own eyes tell you was beyond the pail? that is a national conversation, that is a global conversation but the prosecutor, mr. blackwell, out of the bat tried to convince the jury, don't think about that, this is about one thing. listen. >> this case is not about all police, this case is about mr. derek chauvin and not about any of those men and women and it's not about all policing, at all. this case is not about split second decision-making, in 9:29, there are 479 seconds, not a split second among them. that's what this case is about. >> again we will watch as this plays out, both sides competing with each other -- i'm

chief ramsey, we got new details on the january 6th attack from the head of the d.c. national guard. he said it took more than three hours to get permission to send national guard troops to the u.s. capitol. you previously led the washington, d.c. police. how convoluted did you see this response? >> it's very convoluted. until there's a commission of some kind established that can take a serious look into what took place on january, on and before january 6th, we are going to get at the truth. these senate hearings themselves will not get us where we need to be so we can avoid the sort of thing in the future. obviously there were a lot of miscommunications and breakdowns, intelligence, deployment or what have you. the only way you're going to find out what truly took place is if you put together this commission and has the time and subpoena power, depose witnesses, all those kinds of things to put together a 9/11 type commission. >> they need to learn all the lessons to make sure it doesn't happen again. national guard troops could have made a real difference if they s

his latest call was the owner of ramsey corner cafÉ, in ramsey, new jersey. >> it's happening. >> i can'tlieve it. you can't be serious. >> yeah. your persistence paid off. >> dude, dude, c'mon, bro. [laughter] thank you for saving my life. you no idea. thank you so much, bro. >> tucker: it's a heartening thing to watch. he is not doing it alone. jeff is a partner, businessman in pennsylvania and cofounder of the 30-day fund and overseeing disbursement of $300,000 for 1,000 business and saves jobs every time and he joins us tonight. jeff, thank you for coming on. i cannot get enough of this. the headline is everyone else abandoned some of the most vulnerable in the society, the small business owners and people like you step up. are you shocked you had to do it? how long will it continue? >> thank you. we started this ten months ago and we raised $3.3 million and we helped over 1,000 small business owners across all of pennsylvania keep the lights on and save thousands and thousands of jobs. i have spoken to 500 or more of the small business owners. they are amazing people as you expect. y

ramsey corner cafe in ramsey corner new jersey. >> is happening. >> i can't believe it.ersistence paid off. >> dude, come on, bro. thank you so much, bro. i don't even know what to say right now. >> tucker: it's a heartening thing to watch. he's not doing it alone, jeff barto's is a partner of portnoy's, he's a cofounder of the 30 day fund, he's overseeing the disbursement of about three and half million dollars to more than a thousand businesses, obviously save jobs every time. thank you for coming out, i cannot get enough of this. the headline is, everyone else band is some of the most vulnerable in our society, small business openers, and people like you step out. what has it been like? are you shocked you had to do it? how long will it continue? >> we started this work ten months ago, we've raised $3.3 million and helped over 1,000 small business owners across all of pennsylvania keep the lights on, saved thousands and thousands of jobs. it to your point, i've spoken to 500 or more of the small business owners, and they are amazing people, as you would expect. we do

let me bring in former philadelphia police commissioner cnn law enforcement analyst charles ramsey. you've led so many brave men and women like officer talley. we know he lost his life, the only named victim so far. >> very tragic. leaving behind seven children, a wife, extended family. you know, it's sad. and it's going to become even sadder once we learn the identities of the other victims because they all had families as well. and so that's a loss that just can't be made up at all. that's a hole that will be in their hearts forever. and that's the tragedy of things like this when they do occur. but the officer did what he was trained to do. i mean, you go to the scene. you respond. and you go in. i mean, we learn that lesson from columbine. you cannot wait for s.w.a.t. teams. i don't know if he was shot inside or outside, but he did what he was trained to do. >> you run toward what almost everyone else would run away from. can you speak to what is the grueling task that they have gone through now and continue to go through, which is the gathering of evidence. >> well, it's going

i watched you all day, chief ramsey, as well. i've been riveted and your perspective on this have both been fascinating. great coverage. thank you for doing this. i appreciate it. >> thank you, don. >>> you know, it's hard to hear the testimony about the last moments of george floyd's life second by second. and if you're having trouble dealing with it, speak up. ask for help. we've got some resources up on the screen now for you. again, do not -- it's up on the screen right there. take a look at your screen. i'll tweet it out. i'll put it on our social media. don't hesitate to get help, please. >>> we have a developing story to tell you about. congressman matt gaetz denying that he had a sexual relationship with a 17-year-old after "the new york times" reported the doj was investigating a possible sexual relationship with the girl and whether he paid for her to travel with him. the congressman says it is all an extortion attempt. new details next. when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remembe

>> do you have the file on the ramsey properties? >> i'll get it. >> thank you. ms. fitz? >> i understand you enjoy bach. >> very much so. >> perhaps -- perhaps you wouldn't mind accompanying me to the concert tonight? >> i'd be happy to. i have to get back to my correspondence. >> papa, i speak for the entire family, how could you do such a terrible thing? >> rosetta, is it so terrible? for an old man to seek the comfort of a loving wife as the evening descends upon him. >> you are not just anybody, papa, you are the leader of our people. what kind of example is this if you insist on marrying at your age, why turn your back on our women to marry this hussey? >> that's nonsense, rosetta. black or white, male or female. all have the right to follow the conviction. i'm about to marry her not because she happens to be white. go to my grave a self-accused and self-convicted moral coward. i don't deserve that. >> oh, papa, really. >> rosetta, please. >> wonderful. >> here he is. >> where? >> there he is. >> may i have your signature? >> thank you. >> may i have your autograph.

chief national correspondent john king is with us, gloria borger is here and charles ramsey is joining us, former washington, d.c. police chief, former philadelphia police commissioner. director wray strongly defended the fbi's handling of this memo the night before the january 6th insurrection. did he answer why the fbi didn't raise more alarm bells just ahead of the deadly attack? >> no, i don't think he did. clearly, there was an intelligence failure on the 5th and 6th of january. what i would have liked to have heard was the fact that -- i mean, it's been almost a month now since the insurrection took place, that the fbi has since reached out to the capitol police, reached out to metropolitan police, really broke this down to figure out what went wrong and how do we fix it, so that you don't have it happen again. there is no one agency at fault here. but they need to get together and figure this out, because this isn't the last time. they'll need information sharing that leads to action taken part on one of those agencies. >> it's been almost two mons i should say. wray said -- you

joining us now senior cnn law enforcement, mccabe and charles ramsey.art with you. the investigation, what is most important? we're expecting to hear in a couple hours from law enforcement what's the most important unknown at this point? >> john, that's a tough one. there's a lot of unknowns at this point. obviously the boulder p.d. along with assistance from any number of different law enforcement agencies to include the fbi are going through that crime scene very, very carefully right now to collect any and all forensic evidence necessary to build this case. at the same time, a group of investigators should be really diving deep into the background of this shooter, whose identity has not been released yet, but certainly law enforcement knows who he is. they should be looking likely looking to execute search warrants at his residence, maybe his vehicle and place of work and talking to family knmembers and known associates and social media and if he has any they'll look at his browsing history or anything he's written, just to try to see if we can find

. >> do you have the files on the ramsey property?> thank you. >> miss phipps. >> yes, miss douglass. >> i understand you enjoy bonds. >> very much so, mr. douglass. >> perhaps -- perhaps you wouldn't mind accompanying me to the concert tonight. >> i'd be happy to. i'll have to get back to my correspondence. >> pama, i speak for the entire family. how could you do such a terrible thing? >> rosetta, is it so terrible for an old man to seek the comfort of a loving wife? >> but you are not just anybody, papa. you are the leader of our people. what kind of example is this if you insist on marrying at your age while turning your back on our women to marry this hussy. >> that's nonsense, rosetta. black or white, male or female, we all have the right to follow the conviction of are our hearts. i'm about to marry helen not simple police because she is white. go to my grave self-confused and self-convicted moral counter. i don't deserve that. >> oh, papa, really. >> rosetta, please. >> wonderful. >> here he is. [ applause ] >> thank you. >> ma

coates, cnn senior legal analyst, a former federal prosecutor and law enforcement analyst charles ramsey philadelphia police commissioner. commissioner ramsey, as we look at what we heard today, specifically these last two witnesses, we didn't see them on screen, didn't see them fully identified because of their status as minors. what did you take away from the testimony from the three different witnesses we saw today? first, of course, there were these two girls 18 and now 9. and then we also heard from don williams, the mma fighter who was testifying continuing his testimony from yesterday. >> i thought all the testimony so far today was very come peopling. the last two witnesses were particularly compelling, especially with the first one dt on redirect when the prosecutor asked, you know, how she felt, and she stated that, you know, when she saw floyd she saw her father, she saw her brother and so forth, you can hear the trauma in her voice. so it's very, very compelling. and then of course you have the youngest one, 9 years old now, i believe, but probably 8 then. she, too, was, you

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. >>> joining me now is cnn law enforcement analyst, charles ramsey. he has led police departments in d.c. and philadelphia and served as cochair on obama's task force of 21st century policing. let's talk about what we just heard from brian that the body cam was not turned on for one of these officers. in this day and age, is there any reasonable explanation for that? >> well, i mean, there's no excuse for it. the officer didn't turn it on for whatever reason. if it was a malfunction in the camera itself, that's a different story. i am sure the chief will deal with that, because clearly, if you are wearing a body camera, if you don't turn on it, what good is it. this would have been vital in terms of trying to determine exactly what took place at the time of the shooting. >> how can a community have trust that wrongs weren't committed by officers if routinely body cams are not activated. >> i mean, it does make it difficult. there's no question about that. i don't know if it's routine that they don't do it. i know for a fact that they are working on te