the ramseys were not a match. yet detectives zeroed in on patsy ramsey.peculation, she accidentally killed jonbenet and john helped cover it up, but what kind of accident would cause patsy to murder jonbenet? investigators had a theory. >> she had a bedwetting problem. a serious bedwetting problem that was ongoing for years. >> some believed frustration with jonbenet's bedwetting that night caused patsy to snap or maybe it was something else that set patsy off. investigators focused on a curious finding in the autopsy. >> the small intestine is described as containing fragmented fruit material, which may represent fragments of pineapple. >> but the ramseys had said they put jonbenet to bed after the car ride home and had no memory of her eating pineapple. >> that became a contentious point. i said look i could say i forgot i gave her pineapple, but i didn't. that's the truth. >> subsequently patsy ramsey and burke ramsey's fingerprints were found on that bowl. >> that led to another police theory. >> i'm just wondering if at some point jonbenet came back

her eyes were closed. >> and lo and behold, when john ramsey finds the body, you now have john ramseyt the crime scene. >> john ramsey picked that little girl up, took the tape off of her mouth and dragged her upstairs in his arms. and then the coup de gras. he grabs a blanket, which is full of who knows what kind of contaminants, and throws it over the body. right then and there, the police investigation was tainted. >> reporter: jonbenet had been strangled with a length of cord, a vicious homemade weapon known as a garrote. she was hit on the head with enormous force. and, there was evidence of sexual abuse. >> i knelt next to her, and i leaned down to her face. and john leaned down opposite me. >> reporter: in her 1999 interview, detective arndt seemed to suggest to elizabeth vargas that, in that moment, she was afraid of john ramsey. >> and we had a nonverbal exchange that i will never forget. and he asked if she was dead. and i said, "yes, she's dead." and as we looked at each other, i remember -- and i wore a shoulder holster, tucking my gun right next to me and consciously coun

burt ramsey, brother of murdered beauty queen jonbenet, suing cbs for a whopping $750 moun, in response to a docuseries that he says portrays him as his sister's killer. we're breaking down the evidence. so what's his case? >>> plus, smoking hot. they're the biggest popstars of the moment. chart-topping songs and addictive tracks, but who are they? we're getting closer with the chain smokers. ♪ ♪ >>> but first the "nightline" five. snmpt number one in just 60 >>> good evening. thank you for joining us. since the murder of child beauty queen jonbenet ramsey more than 20 years ago, investigators and journalists have been scouring for clues to the unsolved mystery. but that search may prove to be a costly one for cbs who's recent docuseries reexamine the case evidence is now the subject of a gargantuan lawsuit. >> what we need to do is a complete re-investigation, starting from scratch. >> we have a kidnapping! >> reporter: it was billed as a re-examination of one of the most infamous murder cases in history. more than ten million watched. >> did he perhaps say some things that perhaps wer

amy: we talked to a former friend of jonbenet ramsey, to family friends of the ramseys. we had a new review with john ramsey with barbara walters just a year ago. -- we had an interview with john ramsey with barbara walters just a year ago. you can see the handwriting analysis 's ownnd patsy ramsey handwriting samples that she gave to investigators. it is pretty stunning when them up and look at them word by word, letter by letter. we will let you judge for yourself when you see that. that was perhaps the most stunning visual information that i got when you really got to see it up close, side by side. we are looking forward to that episode of "20/20" tonight. coming up after the break, any chance of a warm-up for the weekend? we will check back in with doug. are at the washington, d.c., medical center -- we are doug: clouds will be increasing today, 29. then a wintry mix early in the morning, then warming up to 54. even warmer temperatures on sunday. we will probably have some updates to these watches and advisories at 4:00. jummy: it is going like this this weekend. tha

a panel of investigators suggesting that burke ramsey, the brother of jon-benet ramsey may have murderedis sister when he was 9 years old, but in a lawsuit filed today, ramsey is suing cbs, claiming permanent damage to his reputation resulting from the defendant's false accusation that he killed his sister. in the show investigators theorizing that burke may have killed jon-benet by hitting her possibly with a flashlight. cbs saying in september it stands by the broadcast and will do so in court. today's lawsuit, the second one brought by burke against defamation. in october, burke also filed a $150 million lawsuit against a forensic pathologist for public comments he's made about the case. burke ramsey has been the subject of several high-profile programs. >> they're talking about -- >> interviewed in september by dr. phil on his program, where burke was asked if he killed jon-benet. >> there still are people that believe that you killed your sister. >> yup. >> what do you say about that? >> look at the evidence or the lack thereof. >> since jon-benet's murder on christmas of 1996, dete

was there enough evidence to indict john and patsy ramsey of a crime? >> based upon the evidence that was presented, i believe that's correct. >> reporter: but if the case went to trial, did he believe the ramseys would be convicted? >> no. >> reporter: no doubt? >> there is no way that i would have been able to say, beyond a reasonable doubt, this is the person. >> reporter: in the end, the grand jury indicted, not for murder, but for child abuse. finding the ramseys allowed jonbenet to be "placed in a situation which resulted in death." in a stunning twist, that prosecutor decided not to move forward with a case against the ramseys, and ten years later, another d.a. publicly cleared the family. amy robach, abc news, new york. >> thank you. and she'll have much more on her special "20/20" tonight. the full interview, 10:00 p.m. eastern. >>> and there's still much more ahead on "world news tonight." the disturbing video just in. the football star punching a woman inside a restaurant, weeks before his bowl game. >>> and shots fired inside a walmart. holi

. >>> the jonbenet ramsey case. the new turn tonight involving dna. and now, right here, the interview. the grand juror breaking their silence. >>> and, the famous voice this week, and so many americans who heeded the call. can you guess our person of the week? >>> good evening. it's great to have you with us on a friday night. we begin with president obama, making it clear who he believes was behind the russian hacking. he said not much happens in russia without vladimir putin. and abc news confirming the fbi now agrees with the cia, putin directed it. and it began with putin's concern over hillary clinton becoming president. and now, we learn what happened during this moment right here. what president obama says he told vladimir putin well before the election about the hacking. martha raddatz and her questions for the president. >> reporter: tonight, president obama revealing he confronted vladimir putin about the russian hacking face to face in september, warning him not to tamper with the vote on election day. >> i felelt that the most effective w

burke ramsey spoke to dr.hil on his tv show. >> for a long time the media basically made our lives crazy. it is hard to miss the cameras and news trucks in your front yard. we would go to the super market sometimes and there would be a tabloid with my picture or someone's picture on the front. >> i'm very skeptical of the media. >> he was just 9 years old when his little sister was killed. he stayed silent for all of the years. the new lawsuit claims "cbs perpetrated a fraud upon the public-instead of being a documentary based on a new investigation by a so-called team of experts, the case of jonbenet ramsey was based on a storyline scripted and self published and commercially unsuccessful book, foreign faction. let's bring in jennifer brandt and eric guster. eric, does burke ramsey have a case? >> absolutely not. >> why not? >> he has to prove he did not commit a murder. he may have a claim against cbs, but this is the issue. he has to prove that he is not the murderer. any time you have a defamation case, a

i think this is where burke ramsey is going to have a very difficult time.that those statements made in this cbs special were intentional. that cbs intended to cause malice to him, to his reputation by making these statements. that's a really, really high bar to meet. i just don't know that he's going to be able to do it. >> burke ramsey has talked about this. he's not part of the lawsuit, but let me play a little of what he said on the dr. phil show. >> there's still people who believe that you killed your sister. >> yeah. >> what do you say about that? >> look at the evidence or the lack thereof. >> again, dr. phil is not being sued. this was an interview that he agreed to do. but could this become part of this case? >> you never know. i mean, you just never know. when it comes to discovery in these kinds of cases, this could go on and on and on. >> especially when you're talking about $750 million. >> absolutely. but i could see cbs really holding their ground, standing their ground in this particular case because they want to make sure that a precedent i

. >> then the jonbenet ramsey investigation.ays it was patsy ramsey who wrote the infamous ransom note. >> when you compare the ransom note to patsy ramsey's own writing, it is stunning. >>> no whipped cream for the holidays. >> no more ready win for christmas. >> how did this happen? plus, who is that girl? the young lady at trump tower with the most powerful people in the world. >> who is

, or at least patsy ramsey should be indicted.nt to keep that in mind this was not a juror in the typical way we think of jurors who heard all the evidence, heard both sides and came to a conclusion. this is a grand juror who heard only the prosecution's side and decides now that this person thinks that he knows who did it. >> just incredible we're getting new information 20 years out. >> unbelievable. unbelievable. >> dan, thank you very much. and all of you can see the full interview on "20/20" at 10:00 eastern right here on abc. >>> now to another murder mystery, the latest on the jogging murder mystery here in new york. authorities say they now have a profile of the person responsible for killing -- for the killing. abc's linsey davis has a new development. >> reporter: this morning new york police say they are closer than ever to identifying the person responsible for karina vetrano's murder. >> we're still getting tips. we're still vetting those as they come in. >> reporter: 30-year-old vetrano is seen here in this surveilla

in a stunning twist that prosecutor decided no the to move forward with the case against the ramseysnd 10 years later another da publicly cleared the family. amy row buck abc news new york. >>> now to see the rest of the stoy and more of the0 view with the grand jury flip over to our channel at 10:00 right after the newscast for 2020. >>> union pilot who fly product for amazon are notifying online shoppers that they may fought get the holiday gifts delivered on time. union representing the cargo pilot is running ads on facebook and google suggesting that amazon may struggle with delivery because of staffing shortages for the fleet of about 40 planes. i hope pet reterrell unveiled amazon prime aired this season to reduce the dpensd on fedex and ups. amazon not commented on the ad ads. >>> coming up next on 7 news at 9:00. fishing for answers. see the new tech follow psychiatry that track the water see the new tech follow psychiatry that track the water level in bay area water . >>> we are still on storm watch because of the impact yesterday level three storm. this is a time lapse vide

was there enough evidence to indict john and patsy ramsey? of a crime?upon the evidence that was presented, i believe that's correct. >> reporter: but if the case went to trial, did he believe that the ramseys would be convicted? >> no. >> based on the evidence you were presented, do you feel you know who killed jonbenet ramsey? >> i highly suspect i do. >> now, the grand jury an indictment accusing john and patsy ramsey, not of murder, but of child abuse finding they allowed jonbenet to be placed in a situation which resulted in her death and, of course, the prosecutor decided not to pursue that indictment. >> let's talk to dan abrams about that right now. usually you think of prosecutors sort of molding the grand jury in the image they want them to be but we're hearing, we wanted to do it, he didn't. >> only the prosecution presenting evidence to a grand jury, right. there is no defense attorney there. so, typically what happens is the prosecutor will present the evidence in the hope of getting an indictment and almost all cases they get it. in this ca

murder of jonbenet ramsey. tonight a cnn report of the secrets and bombschembombshells case. years since the 6-year-old was found strangled in the basement of her home. who did it remain as mystery. jean casarez sat down with those closest to the investigation, including jonbenet's father. >> reporter: it was noon, six hours had passed since patsy ramsey had called 911. their hill girl jonbenet was still missing. police combed the house trying to figure out how an intruder could have gotten in. one possibility -- an open window in the basement. but that was dismissed quickly. >> the window well had cobwebs on it. you can't go through cobwebs without disturbing them. >> reporter: officers examined the ransom note and tapped the phone. >> the kidnapping note said i'll tall you between 8:00 and 10:00. >> reporter: as the deadline came and went, john ramsey was pacing so police asked him to search the house for clues. >> one of the detectives asked me and my friend who was there to go through every inch of the house. started in the basement. we have one room in the basement that

ramsey.r-old beauty queen was found murdered in her home the day after christmas in 1996 and the murder has been unsolved for two decades. now weeks before the 20-year anniversary, jean casarez has a very rare interview with jonbenet's father, john ramsey, about finding his daughter's body and the days after her death. >> reporter: on new year's eve in their hometown, atlanta, georgia, the family buried jonbenet. >> i think it's the worst thing a human being can experience is the loss of a child. >> reporter: but things for john and patsy were about to get even worse. investigators had grown suspicious. >> a lot of things didn't make sense. why would they leave a ransom note with her body still in the house? >> my first impression was that this guy wrote the magna carta. >> will withdraw $118,000 from your account. >> if i were kidnapping this guy's daughter, i'd ask for a quarter million, half million, a million dollars, so the amount of money is just really odd to me. >> reporter: the ramse

page, the brother of jonbenet ramsey is now sugar cbs for $750 million. in the lawsuit, burke ramsey says his reputation was ruined after a network series accuse him of killing his sister two decades ago. >>> and remember when whales swam under the golden gate bridge? it's one of the top stories in 2016. back in a moment. >>> we're following breaking news that has an impact. there's a deadly motorcycle accident. two lanes are closed right now. we'll continue to follow the breaking stories on our newscast and tonight at 6:00. >>> it's one of the most popular toys this holiday season but some parents are saying it's not live up to itself hype. it's a hatchimal that breaks out of its egg. but parents are complaining their hatchimals are not hatching. in some cases the batteries die before the process is complete. they're also upset they're not getting respojss to their complaint. today they posted a response. they say they have added more customer service representatives to keep up with all the questions and they have posted a new troubleshooting section on

the way the death of jonbenet ramsey is making headlines once again. >>> first our newsroom has been putting together coverage plans for the incoming storm. you can track the weather with us on your smartphone by downloading the bay area app. >>> walmart took down its website of a mug shot after customers found it appalling and offensive. we're back in two minutes. alto =gfx= =laura/1xvid= new information about a deadly avahe >>> it is 4:55 on your wednesday morning. palo alto, good morning. certainly to peninsula folks this morning. a little bit dryer on the roads there. we are seeing wet slick spots in parts of the bay area, certainly in san francisco. we're going to keep you updated on the latest incoming storm next. >>> and we've got new information on a deadly avalanche near lake tahoe. just about an hour ago we learned a skier was killed. a search team found barker's body over the weekend trapped underat least ten feet of snow. it happened near mount rose ski resort which was closed because of the ash lanch danger. >> there's new video out showing a mob of robbers taking over a

burke ramsey, who was interviewed on camera this year by dr.s suing the cbs network for $750 million. the suit claims that a cbs documentary intentionally ignored mountains of evidence that exonerated the ramsey family. no comment tonight from cbs. >>> malls across the country are beefing up security. police surrounding this mall in philadelphia last night after chaos broke out, and two officers were attacked. this follows a massive brawl, you see it there, fists flying, that put a ft. worth mall on lockdown. and in aurora, colorado, a fight in the food court involving hundreds of teens. police believe social media posts may have led to some of the chaos. >>> and before you plan your next vacation next year, you may want to consider these dates to get the cheapest air fares, so, break out those calendars. according to fare compare, domestic flights in winter are cheapest from january 7th to march 5th. in spring, fly by april 1st. and in summer, before june 20th, when the peak summer pricing kicks in. >>> a 10-year-old boy facing a dangerous hea

panel of investigators suggestin that burke ramsay, the brother of john bejon benet ramsey. the show, investigators theorizing that burke may have killed herbie hitting her possibly with a flashlight. cbs saying in accept, it stand by the broadcast and will do so he filed a $150 lawsuit against a forensic path option. burke ramsay has been the suspect of several high profile programs. interviewed in september by dr. phil on his program, where burke was asked if he killed jon benet. >> there still are people that believe that you killed your sister. what do you say about that? >> look at the evidence or the lack thereof. >> since her murder on christmas, 1996, investigators investigated the possibility that jon benet was killed by an intruder that left a ransom note. 20 years later, plans for further dna testing that may once and for all solve this case. more "doing chores for mom" per roll more "earning something you love" per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty, the quicker p

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. >> update to the jonbenet ramsey murder case.ty queen was found dead in her home the day after christmas. her older brother burke who was a child at the time is taking legal action against one tv network and what he's doing and why. wrong insurance plan. no, i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, you won't have to worry about replacing your car because you'll get the full value back including depreciation. and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. ♪ ♪ >> some new information on the still unsolved murder of johnson ramsey. this is 20 years to the day since the little beauty queen's body was found inside of her family's home in boilered, colorado. a recent documentary raised the theory that her brother burke, who was nine years old in the time killed his sister in a fit of rage and his parents covered up the murde

a panel of investigators suggesting that burke ramsey, the brother of jonbenet ramsey, may have murderedsister when he was 9 years old. he's suing cbs, claiming perm independent damage to his reputation, resulting from the defendant's false accusation that he killed his sister. in the show, investigators theorizing that burke may have killed jonbenet by hitting her possibly with a flashlight. cbs saying in september it stands by the broadcast and will do so in court. in october, burke also filed a $150 million lawsuit against a forensic pathologist for comments he has made about the case. he's been the subject of several high-profile programs. interviewed in september by dr. phil on his program, where burke was asked if he killed jonbenet. >> there still are people who believe that you killed your sister. >> yeah. >> what do you say about that? >> look at the evidence or the lack thereof. >> since jonbenet's murder on christmas of 1996, detectives have also investigated the possibility that she was killed by an intruder who left a ransom note. with the murder still unsolved 20 years late

i interviewed john ramsey who is getting on in years and for hours i spoke with him.e through everything, not that he wanted to but he did. we heard about christmas day. he talked about how when he realized there was a ransom note what went through his mind. he talks about that afternoon when he went down to the basement and he is the one that found jonbenet. he goes through that. i asked him about the grand jury because they vote ed yo ed unan to indict him and his wife. the dna evidence. i spoke to the forensic scientist that did dna testing. it's not someone just analyzing numbers. she did the testing. she talks to me about how and what happened and when she found out the results and what those results were. >> wow. i remember this case so well but the details i don't like what you just mentioned. we have to watch to see what she says. it's fascinating opinion obviously, this case has never been solved. the evidence is confusing. you have a ransom note left in the home when it wasn't even a kidnapping which is odd. a long three-page ransom note. >> asking for the a

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john ramsey doesn't give interviews, very rarely does he. able to go to where he lives, an undisclosed location, he doesn't like people to know where he is, he wants his privacy because he lost it. i spoke with him. we take him back 20 years. he didn't want to go there but he tells us what happened, how he found her, her condition. do you know she had duct tape over her mouth and she ripped it off because he was so horrified, he said, when he found her in the cellar and i spoke with an acclaimed forensic pathologist who told me "it's a shame that happened because that could have been a mechanism of death depending on how that duct tape was put on her nose or her mouth. >> he shouldn't have removed it. but as a father, he saw his child, has there been new information? >> there's new information all the time but the question is they still have various theories running and everyone believes something and as you look at the proposed evidence we have, you have to decide what you think. remember, john and patsy ramsey, unanimously by a jury they r

. >> the grisly murder of 6-year-old beauty queen jonbenet ramsey captivated the nation 20 years ago.ow her older brother firemen in the $2 million defamation suit against cbs. the primetime for our special falsely accused him of murdering his sister back in 1996. seeking 750 million in damages paid the ramsey family a crucially -- officially cleared but the case remains unsolved. dan: fish oil, one of the supplement of the best they can know might be a good thing if you're there. a new study had a dark monitor the health of children for five years after birth whose mothers had taken an oil supplement. olive oil supplement their fish oil. the fish oil outperformed the counterpart of 17% of children in the fish oil group having persisted view state are asthma compared to 24% in the olive oil group. that's a 34% reduction as% reduction as the cases which if you know anyone who has that can be a huge help. dagen: you probably encountered crowds in your shopping excursions over the holidays. research firm suggest we are just getting started. people are shopping now at rates not seen in 10

. >> then the jonbenet ramsey investigation. handwriting analyst who says it was patsy ramsey who wrote the infamous ransom note. >> when you compare the ransom note to patsy ramsey's own writing, it is stunning. >>> no whipped cream for the holidays. >> no more ready win for christmas. >> how did this happen? plus, who is that girl? the young lady at trump tower with the most powerful people in the world. >> who is she? >>> then what it's

jonbenet ramsey's brother filed a lawsuit after a series suggests he killed his sister. key evidence on the key decade old mystery. today thursday december 29, 2016. >>> from nbc news this is "today" with matt lauer and savanah guthrie live from studio 1 a in rockefeller plaza. >>> welcome to "today." what a terrible chain of events talking about carrie fisher and now debbie reynolds her mother processes. >> it is alst process. you talk about the daughter and her mother. >> stephanie gosk is here with more. >> this morning family and friends are grabbling with this unimaginable loss. a day apart this mother and daughter are both gone. tragedy strikes twice for one of hollywood's most famous families just one day after the death of her daughter, carrie fisher, debbie reynolds passed away from a stroke. her son blaming a broken heart telling variety his mother said just hours before her death i miss her so much. i want to be with carey. family and friends coming together, both women fixtures in american pop culture for debbie reynolds' new york rise to fame begain in 1962

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bring you news on burke ramsey. this is jonbenet ramsey's brother.a $750 million defamation lawsuit against cb. s for quote, perpetrating fraud on the public. there was a special cbs had done, the case of jonbenet ramsey. they aired it earlier this year. a lot seemed to point to him. let's be honest. he has filed a defamation suit against cbs. the stock is up 3.-- 37.5%. that news crossing, jonbenet ramsey murder. still captivating folks. we have a lot going on. one gal i've been spending my afternoon with is nicole petallides from the floor of the new york stock exchange. when we make it happen, not today. >> definitely not today. we're up 112 points -- down 112 points. dow 20,000, forget it today. a lot of traders say maybe friday. people adjust portfolios and addressing last minute cash for window-dressing. bring attention to coach and kate spade apparel. kate spade was halted twice out of potential idea, from activist pressure they will have a sale. what happened was, coach also got a pop on this one. interesting. wells fargo thinks this is good