ramtha argues with that.o the chakra is when two points of energy line cross, and at that crossing - it's called the crossing - we have matter that is formed from that; it's called a chakra point. so he said that the seven centers in the body are not chakras; they're called the seven seals, and they're referred to in the book of revelation - they're the seven churches, the seven candlesticks, the seven seals, the seven angels. and he said, and those are in your body, and they're at different points in your body. the pituitary is the great seventh seal - it's at the top of the brain; we actually use it here. the pineal gland is the sixth. the thyroid - the center of the neck - is the fifth. the fourth is the thalamus - the heart. the third is the solar plexus region, which really takes in your adrenals. the second is your reproductive area. first is your sexual organs - it's your first seal; sex consciousness, pain consciousness, power consciousness, love consciousness, truth consciousness, master consciousnes