create an image of tolerance and because that's where they want to lend legitimacy to some of ramzan kadyrov apparent like a sensible humanitarian schemes and things like that so they tend to argue that it's that their position is not really that different from that of the west and that we all are viewing these people with agree. but some are just more willing to kind of create p.r. of tolerance understanding than others they would view the russians in the us i will definitely ask you about the russian policy but before we go there if the parents are presumed guilty what about the children because you know i've personally done a lot of reporting on syria but what we're hearing from isis last stronghold they missed in syria now is is truly disturbing even by syria standards because there are lots of pregnant women and lots of very very young children grossly male norrish dobson's dying from hyperthermia and very little if any humanitarian effort on the ground if the british public is concerned about their wives and their husbands and the isis fighters etc what about the children i think. that