krasinski, mcveigh, ramzi yousef, they are coldly pragmatic.segments work is very good i think you. you can't think of a terrorist is not morally outraged. you can't think of the radical is not morally outraged. the question is, why, what are the roots of muslim rage? an essay by bernard lewis in 1990. big question. and for you, dr. horgan, i'd -- i like your work a lot but i respectfully disagree that we should not address the bible propaganda -- the bible propaganda that is used to incite on the bases of absolute jubal like fabrication when you look at how iraq was used for our involvement in somalia, the 1 million dead, the 2 million dead, the 3 million day. these have never been encountered officially with the facts. >> let's get -- >> moral outrage. >> would any of you like to respond? >> i would like to respond. of course, it's very important, moral outrages are important but it should not be seen as distinct from belief. moral outrage is grounded in believe that the tremendous injustice has been done, that a tremendous value of central i