was a mistake and i think so and i think it was a mistake too and while i disagree vehemently with rand paul on things like his desire you know he voted against the. paul ryan and i meant it privatized medicare because you couldn't figure what part of he wanted you just do way with medicare he wants to just do away with social security i you know i don't typically he's a libertarian and you know as i've always said libertarians are republicans who want to smoke dope or be allayed they want to wheedle decriminalize drugs and prostitution but basically there are republicans but on the constitution rand paul and his father ron. at least in this case i should just say at least i mean with their go to war powers also these guys are spot on now they don't understand what the phrase general welfare means which is in the constitution the general for clause that says that basically you know the the job of congress is to raise taxes and spend money to promote the general welfare of the people things like public schools that rand paul and ron paul are opposed to but on this issue this patriot act these

in the nick of time tonight but there was one man who gave it its all to protect our constitution rand paul even a broken clock is right twice a day and the lone star state is putting their boot down against intrusive act details behind a bill that could jail t.s.a. screeners. you need to know this the backlash against union busting republicans is in full swing that a federal judge in wisconsin struck down scott walker's anti-union bill that was passed in the dead of night with little notice of the public a judge ruled that the way the bill was passed violated the state's open meeting laws by not giving the proper twenty four hour notice for the public to review that bill in her ruling judge marion so he wrote the court must consider the potential damage to public trust and confidence in government if the legislature is not held to the same rules of transparency that it has created for other governmental bodies our form of government depends on citizens trust and confidence in the process by which our elected officials make laws at all levels of government state supreme court will take up t

what's gotten into rand paul?'s he going off on his own -- his fellow senators, fellow republicans? >> reporter: first, let me start by saying this is a fast moving story. i was told by a republican that the republicans may have just in the last few minutes agreed to give in to rand paul. but what happened was, he actually sought me out to come on cnn to go off on his republican leadership. he's been filibustering the patriot act all week, extending it for four years because he wants amendments. this morning he came to an agreement with the democrats on two amendments that he was looking for. one of them is what we're talking about, sort of the most controversial here, and that it would require the government to get a court order before reviewing people's gun records. he said at least earlier, that the fellow republicans told him, no, take a listen. >> the republican leadership is not only opposing miami amendments they're sending out information to convince other republicans to vote against miamis. >> reporter: t

infringement on the fourth amendment and so we live in a time now were people like rand paul are treated literally as lunatics that's a quote from matthew yglesias of mainstream lefty blogger and also on the right as a guy who's basically analogous to lyndon la rouche david frum called him mad and all he was doing was talking literally about the fourth amendment and privacy in ways that should be familiar to every american's ears not just on the right over the up well first thing is to you know you mentioned that this is a bipartisan push but i remember during the bush administration there are a lot of angry democrats about this that would say that this is a this is a complete you know this is a tyrant that's running our country and he thinks that we need provisions within the patriot act we need the patriot act as a whole and then suddenly now they're all on board secondly harry reid doesn't even want any did takes over this how kind of democracy is that when you just say hey start the debate is too much and the at that's what happens when you allow people who have strongly held beliefs

in the united states and uses those rules that you said although i don't having to hide what even rand paul and i see i occasionally paul was one of only eight senators who voted no including four democrats three republicans and the independent senator bernie sanders the house is expected to pass their version of the bill this week elmina patriot act will be put into law through twenty fifteen fifteen years of big brother counter-terrorism in response to nine eleven fifteen years so as our nation just throw in the towel when it comes to defending civil liberties in this age of terrorism here to talk about the issue is ryan riley order of talking points memo and welcome i think you have me what's so bad first of all about the patriot act which is the stablish the the basis here but i think there are certain provisions certainly the most extreme provisions that were discussed to one under the amendment that leahy senator leahy and as well as senator paul proposed to eliminate some of the most controversial proposals where the out of the lone wolf or oppose it which would allow the government

joins us to explain how g o o o o o o eight get out of our house is not actually pronounced group rand paul despite being the subject of absurd attacks from silly lefties a stand out for their own rights to he's been doing his best to stop the patriotic act and utah goes for the gold money that is will have to fall molineux on to explain how this means the end of the mocker see that's a good thing long live the republic that is until the necessary evil of government is no longer necessary you're watching the atom vs the many. people. in case who are wondering you know we weren't just going to let this one go. yesterday i asked you the viewer if we should go down to the metro transit police department to press the issue or wait for the official report it was like the t.v. version of choose your own adventure and hopefully will be doing some more of that i had a concern specifically that wasn't being addressed in the investigation and so i caught up with metro police deputy chief ronald pavlik after press conference he was having this afternoon about a recent robbery at the largo town center

us tonight so we just found out minutes ago that in fact it did pass the senate despite all of rand paul's efforts he really did become the lone man here at the end of the day but we'll get back to some of the wrangling amongst the politicians first let's talk about this this provision that apparently the government is secretly applying their own their own use to it the only one of the more disturbing things about the free market size and one of the reasons oversight and limits are so important because unlike most other forms of law all the decisions of the flies accord or for the most part classified the opinions of the office of legal counsel on how the justice department allowed to apply these. provisions of the patriot act are secret or classified and the result of that is that you know in reality we think of the law as the statute on the page but you know if you think about how we interpret the concept you know it's what courts rule it's what courts decide and how they interpret the law and in a way it is as much the law as the text on the page is the original statute so in a lot of w

rand paul is a strict constitutionalist but any time eighty's politicians compare anything to slavery or the holocaust it's like there should be a rule book never go there with a comparison what you want to do we don't want anybody to do right but he also this is another attention getting remark i mean it's getting played on your show it's going to get played on other cable news outlets and rand paul was known for this like it was interview to kill a did you see even the girl behind him what i like is the girl that stayed behind and was kind of like mike growing more and more valuable than the other thing to have to say well you all did later and deal with it was gone it's even. hearing something i got interested i was really. i decided to understand how many times the . lavery is a metaphor and and you're right not to mention the logic itself i don't like ok so then our public teachers you know slaves because they're slaves to public education which is a writer people you know well but the educators you know wanted to be whether the government should have to provide health care there

the deadline to extend three provisions of the patriot act and it seemed as if kentucky senator rand paul might be able to stall the bill but despite his best efforts the senate overwhelmingly passed a four year extension of key provisions just minutes ago now using a procedural tactic even though the senate voted to end debate on the measure paul was trying to call for a full thirty hours of debate which would have put pat's expiration time senators pushing other amendments they gave quick most importantly and then brought up by ron wyden who says the business records provision which allows the f.b.i. to get businesses medical offices banks and other organizations to turn over any tangible things that seems relevant to the investigation isn't being used most americans believe in fact he claims that the obama administration has their own secret and sharper taishan so what do we know about it or the us this with me is julian sanchez a research fellow at the cato institute joined thanks so much for joining us tonight so we just found out minutes ago that in fact it did pass the senate despi

rand paul at a senate committee hearing yesterday paul launched into its tirade about health care arguing that people who believe that we all have a right to health care believe that we have a right to be enslaved to take a look. i'm a physician that means you have a right to come to my house and conscript me and you believe in slavery it means that you're going to enslave not only me but the janitor of mosque little the person who cleans my office the assistants who work in my office the nurses he if you have a right to their services basically one she would imply a belief in a right to someone services you have a right to plumbing you have a right to water and you have a right to food you're basically saying that you believe in slavery your state. we're the only nation in the developed world that doesn't consider health care a place equal right and i don't think i'd consider most of the nation most of the nations in europe or canada slave states rand paul is just afraid that we will actually but he will actually have to do his job healing people and that's very very of. the last decade

and they almost have their way and back at the end it came down to only one senator from kentucky rand paul who tried to give your civil liberties a voice and you know what paul got for trying to ask for a debate trying to remind his fellow lawmakers of this is a democracy that we have a constitution with fundamental values that protect its citizens instilled in it was painted by some pundits as a lunatic but worst of all harry reid he was the unpatriotic you want to help terrorists are going he said by asking for a simple debate on this issue rand paul would quote increase the risk of a retaliatory terrorist strike against the homeland and hamper our ability to deal a truly fatal blow to al qaeda you know harry if the patriot act hasn't dealt a fatal blow to al qaeda in the ten years that it's already been around yet i've got a feeling that's not going to accomplish that goal now either but i think and i guess yesterday julian sanchez said it that harry reid is more of curried of a debate than terrorism although. all of them are saying spineless politicians would rather not ask any questio

rand paul worrying about this but more tea party should get involved in this because there were involved in tax and stuff but this is a much more important issue for the republican we've. i'm way off the deep end towards you know executive rule and that's not a good thing for a republic and a couple things on that you know you mentioned that other presidents have have not followed the war powers resolution but from what i understand the only president that broke the sixty day rule was bill clinton during kosovo but even then he still went to congress for funding so he did it at least go to congress is this a new precedent yes that is i mean the president that harry truman said the war powers wasn't wasn't in force and it came after vietnam when they got disgusted with lyndon johnson and nixon so yes clinton did that's exactly what happened but i think obama is in new territory since he's not going to get funding special funding approved like bill clinton did so he's weld so he's gone farther than clinton and of course george bush for all his failings he did get congressional aut

rand paul is a strict constitutionalist but the time he's politicians compare anything to slavery or the holocaust it's like there should be a rule book never go there with a comparison or you know we do we don't owe anybody to do right but he also this is another attention getting remark i mean it's getting played on your show is going to get played on cable news outlets and so i was known for the sake of it was in a ridiculous if you thievin the girl behind him what i like is the girl that's the aide behind him was kind of like. growing more and more gay community and i wanted an advocate for you all in later and deal with it was long and even. here and so i got interested i was really. i decided to understand how many times the. slavery is a metaphor and if you're not to mention the logic is so that it's like ok so then our public teacher is you know slaves because they're slaves to public education which is a right or people you know oh they're either educated you know it's a big to be on whether the government should have to provide health care there was a candidate but is that

. >> i am wondering why you voted for the rand paul budget. >> i believe my kentucky colleague is extremely serious about reducing government spending. he has made that his issue. i think he is serious about it. he has my respect for continuing to press us to do more. he did a lot of work on the budget, and i think it deserved my support. >> valley have a version of the defense authorization bill -- now that you have a version of the defense authorization bill coming your way, there is the issue of authority over guantanamo detainees and provisions of nuclear weapons. what is the bill going to look like when it is all said and done? >> gosh, i have no idea. i have not even looked at the details of the house-passed a version, nor have we crafted one in the senate. that has too many moving parts. >> you are willing to say medicare is on the table. are higher taxes or new revenue raises on or off the table? >> as i have said repeatedly, we do not have a tax problem. we have a spending problem. everybody knows that, and that is what we need to be talking about, how to get spending down. >> are

approval had been held up so close to the expiration deadline mainly due to resistance from republican rand paul who expressed reservations over privacy rights. the legislation renews three provisions including one that constituents government surveillance of loan wolf suspects, foreigners suspected of but without confirmed ties to terrorist groups. >>> there appear to be signs of progress in repairing u.s./pakistan relations strained since the raid that killed osama behind laden. pakistan has agreed to let the cia send a forensic search team into the compound where bin laden was killed by navy s.e.a.l.s. they will be looking for al qaeda materials that may have been hidden, for instance, inside walls or buried in the ground. documents already seized from the compound show that bin laden and his aides discussed making a deal with pakistan. the agreement would have had al qaeda refrain from attacking pakistan in exchange for the group receiving protection inside the country. >>> meanwhile, secretary of state hillary clinton has arrived in pakistan, a trip seen as further effort to rebuild support

i agree with the rand paul. know why the government feels a great need to keep us in fear of the time for our safety. i think we are well aware since 9/11 what our surroundings are. it is that the government or police. -- it is not the government or police. it is citizens who caught these so-called terrorists. i want to know what the government feels the need to keep us in fear. guest: officials for the obama administration, in testifying before the committee on why the provisions are needed, they pointed to in texas recently where someone was arrested for plotting to bomb president bush's hall, amongst other targets. i believe that in that instance they did use the business record, whether it was credit cards or purchased items -- they said that these are needed and are being used and they are required. host: sandusky, ohio, democratic line. caller: ok, i have a comment and, i guess a three-part question. i would like to requote rand paul and benjamin franklin, those who sacrificed liberty for security deserve

growing uncertainty about this, and i have to say, the best statement of the week -- i a aa new fan of rand paul, a freshman republican senator of kentucky, who showed intended humor. he said, "i have come to new hampshire because i am concerned. i want to see the long-term certificate of donald trump plaza republican registration in." donald trump gave thousands of dollars to charlie rangel and harry reid. >> "the new york times" went on to say that this campaign "to portray the president, as the other would not have been done against it by president." >> i agree, but i -- would not have been done against a white president." >> i agree, but this is a loony tunes stop it the better thing politically would have been to let it run longer and make republicans look crazy. donald trump? it is all about him. "i am enormously honored, i am a g -- i take credit, me me me." >> colby? >> i was disappointed that the president did this, that he is du -- that he stooped to this. worse than that, it is that 41% of republicans believe he was not born in the united states, on the basis of what? on the basis of

rand paul is not wrong. this is ultimately going to be a debate on the floor of some of the most important economic issues of our time. which incidentally, that's why we were elected. >> and time's wasting, senator, as you snow. whatever timothy geithner is doing at treasury department, he says he can mix things up enough to keep us from defaulting, though we're already through the debt ceiling, until august. but you only have until then. i guess some of the commentary also this week has been that there's not a lot of pressure out there about this debt ceiling issue. and what i wanted to ask you first, when you were out and about talking to your constituents, do they say to you, hey, i want you to vote to raise the debt ceiling? is it a big issue out there? >> almost no one. almost no one brings it up. you really have to be deep into the policy issues that are involved here. but i'll tell you, everyone talks about creating jobs and getting this economy moving again. whether or not we're dealing with the fore

the best statement of the week -- i am a new fan of rand paul a freshman republican senator from kentucky, who showed intended humor. he went to new hampshire and said "i have come to new hampshire because i am concerned. i want to see the logg for certificate e of donald trump''s registrati -- donald trump lawsuit republican registration." donald trump has given thousands to charlie rangel and harryy reid. "the new york times" sd that is "inconceivable that this would have been conducted against a white president." >> i do agree, but i think this is a loony tunes stuffff -- >> why did he lowered himself -- >> mark is right, it just stuck in his craw. the better thing politically would have been to let it run. donald trump? it is all about him at. "i take great credit, isn't it wonderful, me me me." >> ias disappointed that the president did this, that he stick to this -- he stooped to this. worse than that, it is the fact that 41% of republicans believe that he was not born of the united states, on the basis of what? on the basis of what? no evidencet all, but they believe it. the whole

brown, massachusetts, susan collins, maine, lisa merkow ski, alaska, olympia snow main, and senator rand paulntucky. tim carney, what else happened in that race? i'm thinking about it, remember the name of jack davis. >> he was a democrat who was running a pretend tea party candidacy. >> what happened? >> he brought in 9%. >> did they do that with a purpose in mind? >> yes, i think -- >> it's a convinced democrat. >> yes. >> and he managed the tea party -- >> may have done that -- [everyone talking at once] >> yes, they had done in in other districts. >> why did they do that? >> it was a strategy they tried in other districts. [everyone talking at once] delivering this republican seat to the democrats. >> i don't think you can say every one of his votes would have con to corwin. >> how many would you say would have gone to him? >> i don't know it. would have bin a -- the fact -- [everyone talking at once] >> the fact that it was 4 points. >> now, he would even easily have delivered that. [everyone talking at once] >> playing math is not politics, john. that's traditionally republican district

rand paul would be one of them. but when it comes down to detailed public policy matters, foreign policy issues, meetly, you start finding differences. and it's difficult to align yourself to anybody there because some of us think those things through in great detail and others are perfectly happy to live with just basic principals. so i am something of what i like to call defensivist in foreign affairs so that, for example, military action should only be taken in defense of one's country, rather than aggressing against anyone. although the complications arise immediately. what about when you have allies and they do something and you are signed up for it, so to speak, you know? but in political matters, generally, i could be identified with those who think that government should follow the exact specks of the declaration of independence. governments are instituted amongst us to secure these rights. and those are the rights, life, liberty, and a pursuit of happiness. >> dr. machan, tiger -- tibor machan, send e-mails

[laughter] both rand paul and ron paul are talking about a run in 2012.ve something in common with my father and i. we also are not going to get elected president. [laughter] i wantothing more than to see a debate between father and son. "you ruined everything." [laughter] tim pawlenty is considering a run. if you look up his name in the dictionary, that is more exciting than listening to tim pawlenty. mike pukka be is considering a run. he once said the president was raised in kenya, what do muslim school and hates america - but beyond that, he sings like a sweet person. -- he looks like a sweet person. there is donald trump. he said he would run for president as a republican, which is surprising because i thought he would be running as a joke. [laughter] [applause] fought often appears on donald trott's head. -- fox often appears on donald trump's head. if you are at it was supposed table with them and you do not finish or on strike, do not worry. the fox will eat it. if i can for a moment talk about the berger issue -- we did we get so suspicious about

but under senate rules that can't happen for 30 hours, unless rand paul agrees and the deadline is 11 hours from now. we'll keep you posted. >>> now to a high-profile murder trial in florida. there were some tense and heated moments today in the murder trial of casey anthony. as the defense questioned a key witness. casey anthony's father. the 25-year-old florida mom is accused of killing her 2-year-old daughter caylee nearly three years ago. let's get straight to what's happening right now in court. "people" magazine staff writer steve helling joins me by phone for orlando where he has been watching every moment of this case very closely. steve, casey's anthony, took the stand. he is a key witness, we know. the defense earlier this week accused him of sexually assaulting casey and says that he saw caylee fall into the pool. but anthony seemed at times a bit testy and denied a lot of claims made by the defense so what did we really learn from him on the stand today? >> well, the first thing we learned, which was interesting, was that there's no love lost between george anthony and cas

and a very very ugly ron paul like father like son last week rand paul compared universal health care to slavery and over the weekend his dad a rendezvous. same thing here and on fox news yes yesterday morning ron paul was challenged that the general welfare clause of the constitution seems to allow for the creation of national health insurance and he came up with this response it was the decision of the supreme court in one thousand nine hundred thirty seven. when they said that social security was constitutional under article one section eight i said it's the constitution and of course said slavery was legal to it and we had to reverse that so since one hundred thirty seven i don't think so ron anyhow because making sure people are healthy and slaving them of the same thing i want a family dinner is like it befalls and you pass the potatoes now that's some form of slavery and that's very very ugly. right now there's only one thing standing in between the united states and economic collapse as our ability to borrow from the pension funds of federal employees because republicans won't

that comes to mind i think it would be an interesting take it would be ron paul for president and rand paul for advice for. now. but i see supporter remember that the president is not the legislative branch so although i support ron paul one thousand percent i do want to keep in the back of my mind and i hope others will as well that what we need to do if we want to end this force called the income tax we need to get people who are educated informed have the same philosophical beliefs that we do we need to get them into congress outstanding thanks so much for joining us dave that was radio host author and tax resister they've champion. so who is ron paul and why is he trying to save our country well he was born in one nine hundred thirty five and as a child worked on the family dairy farm that high school he excelled in sports was student council president and met his current wife of fifty four years harold his head of gettysburg college and received a degree in biology before earning his m.d. from duke university working his way through school after his residency he served as a flight surg

you know at the end of the day we're seeing if you can that's out there also you could say in the rand pauls the more libertarian movement that are saying the things that maybe americans actually believe that you never saw before but still the end of the day most mainstream politicians won't go there i want to thank you both for joining us tonight james and thanks to you. all right still to come tonight we have our monday happy hour a man who is our time to hide the fact that he didn't get his life tickets to oprah winfrey's final show got him in trouble last caught on tape police using force to arrest a man in a wheelchair for cover those topics and more with j. crew are founder of realist idealist labs and our producer lucy catherine often just in the. we in the park. i think. either one. we have the gall to. keep him safe get ready because of the freedom. they charge in here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture a. new website which twenty four seven live streaming news town so what can tell you about the ongoing financial part of unlimited high quality

executive branch accountable so far we've really only been hearing crickets coming from capitol hill rand paul and five other republican senators have vowed to take the issue to the supreme court but in terms of a media action a call for a vote none of that has taken far so how can we be fighting a war to bring democracy to the libyan people our government ignores subverts our own here to discuss this with me as per his fine chairman of american freedom agenda and a former associate deputy attorney general and the reagan administration bruce thanks so much for being here thank you for inviting me. who do you think is more to blame here obviously there's a lot of talk about expanded executive powers but congress also isn't really stepping up to the ball they're not doing their job it's day sixty and how come we don't see more members of congress pushing for goes to the political culture because this is not a novelty with president obama we had harry truman his early is the korean war who insisted that the war was a police action and he did not obtain any congressional authorization for war that

caucus addiction that conservatives endured during the george bush here that people like senator rand paul for example are up and they talk about cutting spending for the tea party conservatives should be on the left you have the math to think about the military on the right you have people who want to back at the military the wrong bending when you have a person might wrong all you that you're like it's problems to get oh what you're saying is great conservatism but we have a george w. bush republican party that is the standard republican party as representative of we've got a great that for them our duty just think the second. that we've gotten back is the same old thought it government and the party that got up with this situation and the folks i'm sorry but that's just so what's next for the southern avenger jack. well i would think. a lot of that if they called it off until i get. the american. public if your doctor are outstanding that was southern avenger jack hunter of southern avenger got calm now i just love the way he talks i might even retire to south carolina just to be surrou

wanted war crimes suspect has to appeal against his extradition to the hague record outage for what rand paul's army is accused of ordering a massacre and thousands of muslims of thousands of serbs and go great the march to call for his release. america is getting a new wireless wire system the government is planning for terror threats and disaster next week tech cigar erected to people cell phones but there's growing concern that some movements fear mongering. europe is pushing its preferred candidate taking over our left school protocol with the rest of the plant zero rushing to child south africa say it's time for an outsider to get the drug. plot next to people of l.a. and his guests on cross talk to rate the future of the international monetary fund . please. liz. can. follow in welcome to cross talk i'm peter lavelle issues of relevance and even legitimacy as the jostling continues as you will succeed now disgraced nominee charles kahn at the international monetary fund many still question the usefulness of this global financial institution is the i.m.f. a political tool of the west or an

that you're fired there will harry reid's fear mongering convince the senate to act before a bill rand paul stand against the patriot act we've built with fire will dive into the topic in just a moment. we are right here. on.

both rand paul and ron paul are talking about a run in 2012.y have something in common with my father and i which is we are also not going to get elected president. i would love more than to see a debate between a father and son. rebought it will? dad, you ruin -- rebuttal? dad, you ruin everything! >> tim pawlenty is considering a run. if you look up boring in the dictionary that is more exciting than listening to tim pawlenty. tim pawlenty makes al gore look like rue paul. mike huckabee is considering a run. mike huckabee said the president was raised in kenya, went to a muslim school and he hates america but despite that he still seems like a sweet person. so he sounds less like a presidential candidate and more like my aunt. and then, of course, there is donald trump. donald trump has been saying that he will run for president as a republican which is surprising since i just assumed he was running as a joke. donald trump often appears on fox which is ironic because a fox often appears on donald trump's head. if you are at the washington pos

both rand paul and rahm paul have been talking about a run in 2012.y have something in common with my father and i which means we're also not going to get elected president. i, of course, would love nothing more than to see a debate between father and son. rebuttal? dad, you ruin everything. tim pawlenty is considering a run. if you look up boring in t thedictiothe dictionary, that's more exciting than listening to tim pawlenty. tim pawlenty makes al gore look like rou paul. mike huckabee is considering a run. mike huckabee said the president was raised in kenya, went to a muslim school and it has america. despite that, he still seems like a sweet person. he sounds less like a presidential candidate and more like my aunt. and then, of course, there's donald trump. donald trump has been saying he will run for president as a republican which is surprisie i since i just assumed he was running as a joke. donald trump often appears on fox which is ironic because a fox often appears on donald trump's head. the washington post and you can't finish your entre

patriot act if that's the fire that will harry reid fear mongering convince the senate to act for real rand paul stand against the patriot act leave the bill through expire alive into the topic in just a moment. we are right. i think.

extension of the provisions the tracks we thought the eleventh hour last night with this sentiment from rand paul who opposed the extension being that anyone who speaks out is criticized so i kind of want to back up a little bit because when you talk about a decades ago when people were generally more concerned with liberties we were also in an ideological battle the west in the united states versus the soviet union and the soviet union having kind of the inverse of those priorities where the safety of society was always more important and societies more important than the individual do you think that that dynamic was kind of driving people in the united states decades ago to to really be fighting for their individual liberty. i think so but this changed. america's become much more of a status society we now accept the fact that under the paper that the f.b.i. can come into your home under what they call sneak and peek searches and not even tell you that they've been in your omen rival for your papers and downloads the for me computer they can go to your edge of your school. and with your educati

[laughter] both rand paul and ron paul are talking about a run in 2012.on with my father and i. we also are not going to get elected president. [laughter] i want nothing more than to see a debate between father and son. rebuttal -- "you ruined everything." [laughter] tim pawlenty is considering a run. if you look up his name in the dictionary, that is more exciting than listening to tim pawlenty. he makes al gore looked like ru paul [laughter] mike pukka be is considering a run. he once said the president was raised in kenya, went to a muslim school and hates america -- but beyond that, he looks like a sweet person. he sounds less like a presidential candidate, and more aunt.my ough [laughter] there is donald trump. he said he would run for president as a republican, which is surprising because i thought he would be running as a joke. [laughter] [applause] donald trott of what appears on fox. a fox often appears on donald trump's head. [laughter] if you are at it was supposed table with them and you do not finish or on strike, do not worry. -- if you are

we're going to go all our large little fort knox here and there is you know this whole ron paul rand paul right wing hard right hard money. bunch whatever true believers who think that the dollar should be based on gold you know for a while it was and it sort of worked out but it didn't it and frankly it didn't stop the debasement of the dollar look at the value the dollar from for example one hundred thirteen to nine hundred seventy one and still fell apart but what would happen if the dollar was really solidly back then gold is if these speculators came in and said you know let's buy a bunch of this gold here or china or india put a bunch of gold in drove the price which is what's happening right now then the dollar then the price of gold goes up and the value of the dollar or the price of the dollar goes up which means that it's harder for our exports to export products if there of selling into the market the price of gold goes down suddenly value the dollar goes down we all get poorer and and this literally could happen from day to day i mean it would be insane disaster. so i just wan