marco rubio, rand paul, the exact same voting record.ame scoring from heritage action, 96, i believe. how do you square the 96 from heritage action and then go out in the community and say, oh, let's rebuild this country. >> right. >> let's change things around. we're going to cut pell grants here and there. it's very difficult. >> i think we've been walking the walk and talking the talk. i don't know that. but then as you watched the rand paul response, i thought it was actually remarkable in so far as it was ideologically consistent. it was very well delivered and it's going to create problems for the republican party. it's not good to have a rebuttal to the rebuttal but in terms of the gop. the fact that rand paul calls himself a republican and did so last night was interesting given the fact that he was out there ex score yating the republican party. >> well, let me defy mark's advice and lead with sequestration. >> sure. in the news. >> i appreciate it. you see what's happening with the debate right now which is that republicans who

>> you'll be surprised to know that i think rand paul is wrong.hink this notion that the sequester cuts will be meaningless, look no further than john boehner. john boehner himself has said that this will be a disaster. orrin hatch, republican from utah said this week talking to a local newspaper that he thinks this will be a disaster. i think that even rand paul when it comes to his rhetoric on the sequester is part of a very small minority of even republicans, because i think there is bipartisan agreement that this is a real problem, that the american mainstream regular folks are going to feel a real pinch, and it's going to do harm to the economy, the military and public needs. i think rand paul is in the minority on this one. >> of course, the end of march is certainly going to do something as well. they're going to have to figure out what to do with the budget there. in fact, i want to put it to both of you. what happens when we're approaching another deadline at the end of march and this time to avoid a government shutdown? >> well, ed, as i

there's talk of who's running in two thousand and sixteen among the possible contenders senator rand paul and with his father now out of the political picture ron paul's followers hope that his son rand will carry the torch of his libertarian legacy around spoke yesterday at the heritage foundation he talked about the importance of keeping foreign policy aligned with the constitution when foreign policy has become so monolithic so lacking in debate that republicans and democrats routinely pass foreign policy statements without debating without votes where are the calls for moderation the calls for restraint anyone who questions the bipartisan consensus is immediately castigated rebuked and their patriotism challenged sounded a little like his father there are others though are weary of the younger paul in question just how closely his beliefs resemble that of his father to discuss i'm joined now by matt welch editor in chief for reason welcome mat. so has red been able to appeal to a conservative base that his father repulsed. yes already in the very fact that we were the heritage foundat

it wonder if he thinks rand paul had it right that everybody has a chance. >> i think rand paul has iterybody has a chance. let people go in and participate. it's opposite of the bureau. the more people who participate the better off we are. the more we examine the quality of the candidates from top to bottom, the likely we end up with fewer christine o'donnell's and more rand paul. >> greg: i think they would like to see more in this nation than open intelligent conversations, not just casting aspergess at each other. >> i would like like to see more often is open and intelligent conversation. not people just casting aspersions at each other. it's up believable to me the way people act like third graders. >> carson for president. you are retiring as a surgeon this summer. what do you make of it? are you going to get in to politics? >> it's not my intention to do that. but as i always say in every part of my life, i'll leave that up to god. >> greg: here is what is needed in a nominee. someone you don't have to explain, that doesn't need me or you to defend his clumsy retorts. i don't

cia would be an easy confirmation but one senator is valid to block brennan from that post what rand paul is demanding coming up. and you see now the pentagon just inked a deal for a smartphone that can determine your fingerprints and face the scanning details ahead. it's thursday february fourteenth eight pm here in washington d.c. i'm liz wall and you're watching our. we began zeroing in on a massive piece of equipment that could transform the way the military conducts its missions drones have made their way into the mainstream conversation as senators demand more transparency on the thus far secret drone campaign and as of now we have a drone bases in places like pakistan and djibouti africa as covert drone warfare becomes a critical foreign policy strategy we can expect even more of these bases to pop up but what if you didn't need to set up a base in these volatile countries that could be the case of drone aircraft carriers were were put to use you're looking now at the navy's x. forty seven b. drone aircraft which is the in the testing phase right now the first take off at sea set t

because it pertains to rand paul.rand paul guys who began it those who were disgusted that president bush was spending money. and then it turned into colonial characters blaming president obama. is rand paul trying to be his dad? >> i think rand paul is out there to further himself ride the wave to some sort of fame and fortune. >> but if he doesn't want to be his dad, someone needs to break that to his haircut. >> with you noticed the paul family shrink and becomes whineyer. >> cenk: they don't shrink. the suit got bigger. i'm dying to talking to you about this it took more and a year for the senate to reauthorize the violence against women act. and when they finally did that, 22 republicans voted know including lindsey graham and rand paul and marco rubio. you're a woman julie. >> thank you. >> john: if i was a political party and i was trying to get women to come back and vote for me wouldn't i bite the bullet and reauthorize the violence against women even if it includes women on reservations and lesbians. >> wome

so it's complicated for rand paul. he says he's fighting hagel on these principle grounds as it relates to benghazi, as it relates to the disclosure of documents and other things. but if libertarians had their way, they would prefer him to the guy who was just in there, leon panetta. >> rand paul is an intriguing character, if for no other reason than he always maintainses a very, very calm demeanor, but fires some heavy broadsides at the same time, one of which he fired at secretary of state hillary clinton during the benghazi hearing. let's take listen to what he said. >> and had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post. i think it's inexcusable. >> your reaction? >> wow. look, here is the thing, rand paul, his dad, they're both doctors, but they're hugely different demeanors. his father gets wound up and he let's it rip and it makes people happy inside the libertarian conservati

angela, what about rand paul?s got a ready-made constituency lined up for 2016 on the basis of his father. and, you know, what do you think of him? doesn't he have the best rationale for running? >> i don't know if he does or if he doesn't. here is what i do know. i know rand paul has become the poster boy for tea party politics and tea party politics are going away quickly. forget 2016. for 2014 the republicans have a party, if they don't undergo go a serious reformation like the church had to do, they have a major not only messaging problem, not only a branding problem but a policy problem. most of the country doesn't see high to eye with the rest of these potential candidates. >> jonathan, what do you think of rand paul's possibilities? >> i don't. i agree with angela. you know, overall -- >> this is very disappointing. you have knocked every single one of them down. i put them all up. they can hardly complain we give them air time and you just eviscerate each one of them. one is corrupt, the other was hopeless

here are with his critique of both parties is senator rand paul of kentucky.elcome back to "fox news sunday." >> good morning. >> chris: we will get to the president in a moment. let's start with the republicans. you say the sequester is fine, even the 40 plus billion dollars that the pentagon would take in military spending cuts. you just heard senator graham say no, it isn't fine that that would further jeopardize our national security. >>> well, ideally we would have done the right thing and that is pass appropriations bills and reduce spending where we think is fit. the sequester is sort of a hammer. it was requested by the president. it was his idea. signed into law by him. so i think it is disengine with us for him to go back on it. to put it in perspective it is a trillion dollars that over the next ten years spending will go up $9 trillion. so even with the sequester spending will still rise overall. so the sequester really is a reduction in the rate of growth of spending. it is not a real cut in spending. >> senator graham also says you are wrong that

the largest outside group supporting rand paul, $2.9 million.o rubio, i gave hi money personally, very early of the campaign and we gave support -- >> tea party candidates are saying you are -- >> no. no. no, some people associated with the tea party level. todd aiken was not a tea party candidate and tea partiers supported the other -- >> the guy who said, legitimate rape in a missouri... >> right. and our object is, to avoid having stupid candidates who can to the win general elections and are undisciplined and can't raise money and i'm spputting together the support, because the money is too difficult to be raised to spend money on candidates who have little chance of winning in a general election. >> chris: the tea party thinks you are going after -- let me say. there were plenty of bad establishment candidates in north dakota and virginia and wisconsin and a lot of them blew chances in races -- >> i think that is right. let's take case of indiana. we had a candidate, richard murdoch, who lost the general election in a state comfortably won

rand paul talked than theory that he has cooked up. he talked about that theory after that hearing to who else, but the website "world net daily." rand did an interview with "world net daily" and told them he doesn't have any proof about this theory that guns are being smuggled out of libya into turkey, and that somehow explains what was going on there. but he wanted to enter that conspiracy theory into the congressional record anyway. "world net daily" is where united states senator rand paul went to go talk about his conspiracy secret boat theory about benghazi after the hearing. just for the record, this is the "world net daily" front page. see what the halo is? this is their current issue. inside you can read an article titled "obama's muslim childhood" by daniel pipes in which the renowned islam expert presents overwhelming evidence that the president of the united states who claimed before the election he was never a muslim was in fact born and raised a muslim. no way, way. no way, way. world net dally is where senator rand paul,

but i agree with rand paul. the fifth amendment says that no person shall denied life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. these may be americans that have committed treason by signing up with another country or another group against us, but i think -- it just makes me uncomfortable that the president, whoever it is, is the prosecutor, the judge, the jury, and the executioner, all rolled into one. so i'm not suggesting something that would slow down response, but where there is time to go in, submit it to a third party, that is, a court, in confidence, and get a judgment that, yes there, is sufficient evidence here, that just feels to me like that's -- it's not full compliance with the fifth amendment. some say these people should have a whole trial. i don't believe that. but think some independent check on the executive is healthy for our system. >> final question with less than a minute left. i want to ask about gun control. maine a big hunting territory for so many people, i know you agree with a lot of things t

you wonder what his fellow members of the republican caucus are saying about or to rand paul.ude, you know, we like drones. we like killing people. >> i don't think rand paul does too much working with the caucus sounds like. i think that's the issue. >> you know, maggie, a lot of people think it's premature for us to be talking about 2016. rand paul is going to be a serious issue for the republican party not just because he is giving a post-buttle -- post-buttle to the rebuttal -- so many buttales -- but because he is very consistent and has a fired up -- rand paul has a very fired up constituency, and i think in a lot of ways there is no identity crisis in the rand paul wing of the republican party. >> except i think there is a little bit to the ebbs tent that, remember, he just took this big -- i completings agree with you about the appeal to the base. i do think that -- i think he is struggling a little bit right now in the sense that he has made a huge overture to neo conservatives. remember, he took this trip to israel. he was meeting with folks like dan senor who has be

when you have rand paul who is as pure a tea party guy as it gets.g to be rubio's biggest competition should he actually run in 2016. you're previewing the 2016 primary. >> i was going to say, is this a response to tonight or a dress rehearsal for the republican primaries 2016? >> it's a bit of a dress rehearsal but it's also indicative of the problem that the republican party has right now, right? because rubio from what we've read is going to go out and talk about, you know, obama's government-centered ideology. well, that was the romney talking points that didn't work. so that's the establishment talking points. and then you're going to have rand paul, who knows what he's going to say, and i have to say, with the presence of ted nugent in the hall, that just shows you the republican party is all over the map. clearly out of control. there was nobody who could step in and say to rand paul, no, you can't do this. there was nobody who could say, now, you can't bring ted nugent here. that shows you how out of control they are right now. >> listen to w

so rand paul wants answers are they going to get some. well i think we all would like some answers i don't know that he's going to get them i would also like to know if the government thinks they care and simply target people declare them terrorists and kill them or on its own say so we are no the government is the bomb and ministrations trying to have it both ways by saying that it's overseas or targeted killings or book battlefield killings and that due process is being served by executive review of the people that were listed for targeting if that's the rationale that they plan on using domestically and already for a situation that comes up with worse certainly a lot of questions and it's these questions that are threatening to hold up the confirmation of brennan do you think that this is an effective way to to shine a light on the secret program or at least attempt to well it's a bit of leverage whether it's effective we'll find out but i don't know what else we can do what we have heard so far or through a leaked white paper would se

from cyber privacy to bodily privacy now kentucky senator rand paul is going head to head with the t.s.a. senator paul has had numerous issues with the t.s.a. over the years the most infamous instance of course was last year in tennessee when the senator was detained at a checkpoint after refusing to submit to a patdown now one of the two bills that he is in to do saying would require airports to hire private companies of their own choosing to conduct security screenings the other would provide to travelers with a number of protections from procedures like invasive searches so how likely are these bills to pass and what will they actually change will discuss this issue i was joined earlier by a bomb he's a transportation policy analyst for the reason foundation what ten or paul's bill does specifically is it takes away a conflict of interest that the federal government currently has right now the t.s.a. conducts both the screenings and it also oversees the screening process in the issue with that is that there's basically an incentive for the t.s.a. to make the screening process as we co

you'll give rand paul give the tea party response tonight.'ve had bill o'reilly call marco rubio a moderate. it will be interesting. >> senator, how difficult is it to follow the president of the united states, giving a speech, no matter who you are? >> i think it's tough, but i think they also know what their objective is. and he obviously wants greater visibility. he wants to be able to position himself in a way. and i think that's going to be the big issue, because, as a moderate myself, i'm looking for a moderate. >> christian, is marco rubio the guy your party should put forward as their foil to barack obama? >> absolutely. i'm so thrilled that he's going to be giving the response to the state of the union. i think it is his time. i'm looking forward to him getting this national exposure. i think he issing t ing ththe r at the right time to lead the republican party into this time of renewal. >> john allen, who gets more attention tomorrow morning, marco rubio or rand paul? >> i think marco rubio, actually, will get more attention, than

from cyber privacy to bodily privacy now kentucky senator rand paul is going head to head with the t.s.a. he has introduced a bill to privatized the agency and establish a passenger bill of rights senator paul has had numerous run ins with the t.s.a. over the years the most infamous instance was in tennessee last year where the senator was detained at a checkpoint after he refused to submit to a pat down and consequently missed his guest speaker appearance at the march for life now one of the two bills that he is proposing would require air force to hire private companies of their own choosing to conduct security screenings the other would provide travelers was a number of protections from procedures like invasive searches so how likely are these bills to pass and what will they really change well bomb is a transportation policy analyst for the reason foundation and he has some opinions on that matter his first question prototypes are not have to allan's are going to inevitably happen to some passengers so does it really matter who's doing the touching so to say. well hi megan and thanks

i feel about rand paul the way i used to feel about chris christie. i thought he was really good and i ignored a few things that kind of bothered me. now, i don't like chris christie >> bill: now, do you think that the tea party can reorganize itself. because remember, there is no central authority there. it's a state by state movement. can it recapture the mojo knowing that the press? >> i don't care what the press thinks. anybody that starts to stand up for small government and especially if it is led by somebody rand paul, it can have success. libertarians tend to eat their own. if you don't fall in line lock step, it's the strangest things, some of the fringe libertarians, they somehow believe in maximum freedom unless you disagree with them. then you can't be in the camp. >> bill: so you are not too optimistic about the tea party rising unless there is a standard there? >> no, i think i am sure that the republicans will become less and less relevant as every day that goes by. they are becoming the wig party because -- whig party. >> bill: look if

rand paul is here. welcome, everybody. i am neil cavuto. rand paul has crunched the numbers about what the president has said and says it is about to explode the deficit and there is no way you can talk about spending on things like infrastructure, kind of change initiatives come in green initiatives, all kids initiatives, and so many other initiatives. without initiating a lot bigger deficits. rand paul is here to say that not only does the math not add up, nothing of that. senator, it is great to have you. >> thank you for having me, neil. neil: or do you do now? what do you do? what you advocate republicans do? >> i think we have to point out the truth. we cannot let the president went on the country saying that he has cut the deficit by $2 trillion. well, that is absurd. we have increased our debt by $6 trillion in his first term. what did he say? bowl, because i didn't increase it, i have reduced it to trillion dollars? that is absurd. he added $6 trillion to the debt and that is just a fact. he must have listed 50 different new progra

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