randall james, richard earnstein, ceo, advises us as well as a cnbc contributor. if you try to find him in the phone book, you never will because there will be about 80,000 >> like jim smithn the ten-year. do you have an upside? what do you think? near term? >> 3% is psychological right? 306 was technical. from there, the next real resistance is 312, 318, 325. 'we're really in some open water with a ten-year-old bias to move higher i don't see a lot of things keeping it dipping back before 3% in the near term unless there is some geopolitical risk. it is on a definite trend. although it won't be linear. we will find buyers along the way. >> we shouldn't be surprised tocake wake up and see 3 and a quarter the housing wasn't great the other day. that was weather related i can't imagine this is 3 and a quarter. you can ask me, the highest. i think there were 15 or 16% mortgage rates what is it now >> we had 21% fed bonds when i got in the business. nobody wanted to buy 15% ten years. they wanted to buy 13% three years. >> they wanted triple tax free triple a, unbelievable does that worry you? does that scare you? >> oh, not at all. no, i mean, look, this is we're in a late c