joining me now, birmingham, alabama, mayor randall woodfin, a democrat and author of the new book songham a memoir. mayor woodford woodfin, thank you for joining us this evening. you criticized president trump's federal di ban as the alabama vacation of america, referring to state officials attempts to remove diversity practices in alabama, where republican state officials banned dei in public colleges and government offices. are you concerned that the president known to pick fights with lawmakers and public officials of color like yourself, will retaliate against birmingham somehow? >> well, thanks. >> for having. >> me on. you know, there's a. there's an. honest expectation from our leaders that it's okay for us to disagree. >> and that. >> retaliation should not. be a part of the conversation. i mean, let's remember what these. letters stand for. we don't say them. >> out loud enough. we don't. >> say them out loud enough. >> diversity, >> equity, inclusion on their face. these at minimum, these words are neutral. but at best these are values, american values. and it doesn't matter