>> randy capps? >> i think we need to have both conversations. i think at the moment there are 11 to 12 million unauthorized immigrants in the country. there's also millions of homeless people and veterans. they're both populations what in need of assistance. the thing is, many of them do have jobs, many of them don't need assistance. they're not eligible for public assistance so they're not taking benefits away from other people. at least from my point of view. but that doesn't mean by a long shot that this is the most important problem facing the country and honestly, that's oni of the challenges in having the whole federal government shutdown over there.: because there's a lot of other problems not being addressed in society. >> silver spring, maryland, next. >> caller: my question is,d ch is the status of the -- that probably the children here r. they eligible to become citizens? how do they stay indefinitely. thank you have a good day. >> that was the program that i mentioned earlier, the deferred -- >> dapa. >> dapa as opposed to daca. that