for example, congressman randy cunningham another one of the most nor tore youse scandals. money was funded by him to several candidate commitees by a defense contractor mitchell ade and other individuals to go to randy cunningham and other candidates and party commitees. so you're not going to find an example of the person who was the actual contractor at the federal level having given a contribution to a party committee for a noncandidate committee. but again at the state level governor roland, some of the money that was used to get him to award a government contract went not only to his candidate committee but also to political party commitees. >> do you think congress could ban federal employees from making con trib ewings consistent with the first amendment? >> i do and it has. federal employees were not allowed to make contributions to incumbent members of congress until 1993. so if congress decided to reinstitute that ban of course the court would need to actually look at the existing evidence and build a record in the way -- >> how about grant recipients? same answe

congressman randy cunningham and money was funded to him pie by a defense counsel to him and other candidates and party committees so you are not going to find an example of the person who is the actual contractor at the federal level having given a contribution for a party for a non-committee candidate. but governor roland, some of the money to give him contractors to political party committees >> do you think congress can ban federal employees from making contributions consistent with the first amendment? >> i do. and it has. we are -- were -- not allowed to until 1993. so the court needs to look at the existing evidence and build a record -- >> how about grant recipients? same answer there? >> i am not sure. that is something that again there would have to be some evidence of danger. >> there hasn't been a record -- >> why -- and there are lots of mismatched questions but the individual contractors are still allow today raise money and bundle money and you know and i know that the people who bundle and raise money are much more valuable to the parties and candidates than one individual con