if you've been successful in depending on the hedge fund regarding again, i want to quote from randy diamond is he still here it says dated january 29th mr. 0 a chang will take over the portfolio for the chief executive officer and the officers have been reduced and the system was paying excess fees so we're come back to the excess fees 3 things excess fees and number 2 is the risk and 3 the cultural i want to address those 3 in terms of the fees 2 percent are the manager fees and up to 20 the profit; however, how about a down market do they pay back does the loss go against the credit we see in our private equity portfolio oh, the foes are about the same it's a different investment and the targeted fund for the portfolio alternative investment is 15 percent modeling for a lower money that by bye 15 percent if you're take into account at 15 percent return you're more prone to pay a higher percentage of managing fees if the hedge fund has 10 percent you want to give some more to the manager so they have a skin in the game it is different from the private portfolio we've talked about endouchlt