randy komisar, kleiner perkins, thought you could be far bigger than even $3.2 billion. it was never about money. it was about building the right thing. this wasn't about money. the number was nice. don't get me wrong. but, this was a 10, 15 year vision. i knew we were going to need big arms to help us get there. i remember how long it took to go from ipod to iphone, and those things. and you need a lot of resources to do it. just to be standalone? people would say you need to go public, you need to raise more money. i did not want to go public. when you saw that number, when you had the gut the feeling, you just had to go with it. it is like when you get married. you never know what it's going to be like on the other side. you trust your gut. you have done all the analysis. at the end of the day, it is all about emotional decision. it's not a rational one. emily: it is funny because people still wonder why didn't you sell to apple. you worked at apple, it feels like apple, was that ever really an option? tony: we considered all the possible acquisition targets. through