joining us now, randy warren, chief investor with sheana with cls investments. welcome to both of you we've been musing over the last three weeks as the trade talks heated up, and seemingly, a deal came closer that maybe the moment would come where all of this anticipation that seems to be built in would come to fruition and hit the sell button is that what's happening today >> it's a possibility but the ten year bull market you introduced us with, investors really aren't that excited about this ten year bull market. you've got to remember where we came from. we were in the depths of despair ten years ago. and the markets come out of that and it took five years or so before the s&p started making new money. and then even this year, you know, how can anybody be all that excited about a 12 or 14% increase here at the beginning of the year when the market dumped ten or 12 percent at the end of last year >> investors looking for new money, not just for, oh, i want to make back what i already lost so it's forced us to get pretty innovative with some new ideas >> shan