it made me sick to my stomach when i heard randy winegarden. of a school child, a sophomore in high school now, i have resources but to hear the teachers union suggest that once again my grand children in public school -- once again they're not going to go to school? that all that we have been through, sixteen months, all of the promises and everything else. now she let that -- it was like a threat on an atomic bomb. it was so severe and so profound i'm sure that every school parent out there that heard that had the same that i had. this is a very very serious threat from a very very powerful if not an all powerful union chief to determine the faith of public schools. >> who does this hurt, greg? minority students. students with single moms working minimum waging special needs kids need to be in school. >> i'm not sure anymore.'t have i wonder if this is the golden opportunity to fix education. we know it's broken. we know the teacher union sucks. i will get into the suicide rates in a minute. this isn't about the kids. this is about the teache

let's discuss with the president of the american federation of teachers, randy winegarden. e with you, chris. >> let's deal with the argument and then we'll go to the remedy. the argument. you are teaching about the oppression of black people in this country but you are using it as a cudgel. mike pompeo is saying you want to say that this country basically stinks, and blame white people. and this is the left's effort to make a minority into a majority. because you want them all to vote for guy s, so you can stay in power. >> you know, i -- i mean -- >> that's what you're hearing. i mean, and you are going to hear it more and more so what's the answer? >> right. so the answer is it's completely not true. i mean, i am a high school social studies teacher. it's hard to, actually, fight against something that's completely not true. because then, you're assuming something in evidence that's not true. so let me go through what is true, which is that for the last, i don't know, as long as i have been teaching, we teach history in a way where you take salient pieces of american hist