randy winegarten. randy great to see you. thanks for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> let's start with that critique. yikts say it's unions that are the problem in, particular there is tenure for teachers and inability to fire bad ones are contributing to disturbing numbers your thoughts? iets disappointing that richard berman would put an ad like this in today after biggest actions of frankly parents, students and teachers across america but let me just say one, if someone shouldn't teach, can't teach they shouldn't be there frankly our union as well as others, daily news said the ad was wrong we have actually been trying to figure out how to make sure have you great teachers in every school. two, where the ad and frankly all of the stuff about teachers so wrong this country have lots of unions and value their teachers issue is how to give the teachers tools and time that they need to do a great job? because what happens is poverty. >> i know you're complaining about standardized tests. they relie on testing. >> they

. >>> joining us now, the woman in the advertisement, randy winegarten, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> let's start with that critic, the critics say that unions are the bad guy. >> it is so disappointing that richard berman would put an ad like that in today after the biggest actions of frankly parents, students, and frankly teachers all across america. let me just say this. number one if somebody can't teach they shouldn't be there. and frankly, our union, as well as others, in fact "the daily news" basically said the ad was wrong. we have been actually trying to figure out how to make sure you have great teachers in every single school. number two, where the ad and you know, frankly all that stuff about this is so wrong, some countries have unionization, and actually value their teachers. the issue they have is how do you give the teachers the tools and the time that they need to do a great job. because what happens in those countries, the big, big difference between 50 years ago as now, is poverty. >> but we outspend them. we outspend them, 4-1 in most cases. i know yo