the issue, of course, and the difference, from raoul moat, was that raoul moat committed an incidentnt and then he went on to the run. incident and then he went on to the run this _ incident and then he went on to the run. this gentleman has been in prison— run. this gentleman has been in prison and — run. this gentleman has been in prison and has arranged an escape. of prison and has arranged an escape. of course, — prison and has arranged an escape. of course, the bigger point is, was of course, the bigger point is, was it a spontaneous escape? ie, he had 'ust it a spontaneous escape? ie, he had just seized _ it a spontaneous escape? ie, he had just seized the opportunity provided to him. _ just seized the opportunity provided to him, but it doesn't seem likely if he _ to him, but it doesn't seem likely if he has — to him, but it doesn't seem likely if he has had to have straps available _ if he has had to have straps available to him as well. 0r, if he has had to have straps available to him as well. or, was that element of organisation. and if there _ that element of organisation

. >> i know i'm old enough to remember of raoul remember the manhunt of raoul moat do remember that?emember that? i do that the most quite that was one of the most quite recent know. what did you think i was about to say? i'm old enough to remember the 19 1840 john stonehouse case. >> i the these these news stories, they have. the trouble is that they have a certain glamour to them. but these are serious matters. and there is a danger that we as journalists can sometimes glamorise the people involved. but . the viewer people involved. but. the viewer who is saying that, who was making very important points about the security checks and the procedures , has the normal procedures, has everything done that would everything been done that would normally be done? it were normally be done? and if it were not done, why not? >> obviously, the answer not done, why not? >>that obviously, the answer not done, why not? >>that inobviously, the answer not done, why not? >>that in part�*usly, the answer not done, why not? >>that in part atly, the answer not done, why not? >>that in part at least, a

. —— raoul moat.e, where the met were no ., ., particularly this one, where the met were no ., . ., ., were not informed that khalife had one on were not informed that khalife had gone on the _ were not informed that khalife had gone on the run — were not informed that khalife had gone on the run for _ were not informed that khalife had gone on the run for an _ were not informed that khalife had gone on the run for an hour. i gone on the run for an hour. although that sounds like a very short time in policing terms, it is very long time. it gave him the opportunity to escape from the immediate environment. take us throu~h immediate environment. take us through what _ immediate environment. take us through what would _ immediate environment. take us through what would have - immediate environment. take us i through what would have happened once they were informed. then;r through what would have happened once they were informed. they would have immediately _ once they were informed. they would have imme