this a lot better from the stanford center for sleep sciences and medicine is associate professor raphael palia. thank you for being here today. >> thank you for having me. >> sleep is illusive for a lot of us in this industry. >> sure. >> for the families who come to see you also. let's start with the kids. what should parents know about the kids and what they need? >> i think parents need to know that kids are 3408ding after them. as a parent, if you don't make sleep a priority in your life, don't be surprised your kids aren't doing it. for a lot of parents, the kids sleep is the way for the parents to get a break from their kids. you can't do it that way either. i think kids need to be taught that they get to sleep, not that they have to sleep. it's different. if you ask a child sometimes why you sleep, they don't have a good sense of it. what's the value of it? we know why we have to eat. we know what the other things are, exercise. but ask somebody why they have to sleep, parents don't have a good answer a. they want a break. i think it's important for parents to realize kids model them. i