also, up front, when you suck the water out of the bay or ocean orest rarry, you're going to -- orest wary, you're going to take massive amounts of especially small living things -- if we were to go guard with a plan like this anywhere in the san francisco bay there would be a take of endangersed species and that is unavoidable. the reason that we're at this point is because of global warming, essentially and to use desalination as a strategy is very like some of these ideas to put particles up in the atmosphere to block some of the sun out. at the beginning it sounds like maybe a clever idea but when you dell much -- dell have the impact it's going to have on the environments and specific -- specificly, on energy use, you can't leave that out. and specifically to the letter that you received -- and i was able to find outs this morning that not only our city, the group they represent, but also san francisco green party has agreed to sign on to that letter as well. i hope i'm not losing your support, commissioner. so the point here is that we haven't had a lot of new information on thi