let's ask rashawn williams good to see you.me. >> good to see you >> i was here and i was watching that all go down on the floor. it was excitement the likes of which we hadn't seen in a while. is it the start of something >> it's not. thanks for having me back. i remember i was talking about the mobile ipo i'll reiterate the same talking points we saw johnson & johnson doing a technical ipo. that doesn't apply to all businesses you can restrict the supply, oversubscribe the book, they still own vast majority of the company. spinoffs are easy to do because they have control over supply, where they price it and they're just waiting for the multiples to expand for that to trade up the vast majority of companies where you have bcs, looking for liquidity and you have employees, they're looking at ipos to see if they can get fair multiples today. i think for all the corporations they can do deals like this often. >> you have a lot of tech companies in the hopper waiting for the right moment when is that moment going to come if this