dr rasmussen nielsen is from the reuters institute for the study of journalism at the university of oxford he also advises the e.u. commission on this information welcome to you we hear a lot these days about to descend from asian and russian troll farms is it just russia doing this. no not at all i mean i think it's very clear that there are a number of. operations. and they are probably the most the games in the sense of ones but there has been a number of incidents in which other forms they shown to be acts of around the world trying to sow confusion and increases trucks in the political process and it is it's just vegan if i can put it that way away at it as well as the west that it. i think it's clear that the line between information operations and sometimes a bit hot to draw on and there are probably instances in which western governments are accepted is that other governments might think of as interference i think what we need to give in mind is that the majority of misinformation and sometimes it is a nation are you can mistaken or profit from international actors and this will be