we would stay at the former celli's, and i would go to tower records and rasputina and the people's park and was just fascinated with the energy of that spot. and i heard -- i was standing in front of tower records -- this was about 1979, and i heard something loud walking my way, and it was a guy with a boom box on his shoulder, and i recognized, he was playing a motorhead song. so he -- i asked him, you're playing the song. it's incredible, and we became best friends, and he -- his name was richard birch, and he ended up with the coat on the back of "kill them all." he was kind of in the gateway, you really had to dig for people that were of the same breed as you, and at that time, i was introduced to dozens and dozens of kids, all 17 years old, who viewed the world the same as i did. i was an only child growing up, and it just gave me a sense of identity. and so when the band came up here -- and stayed in touch with all of these guys and girls. so when the band came up here a year later, that was the beginning of the scene, you knee, and all these kids, you know, most of them ended up