that means we can offer ratepayers something that will be the same price as pg&e, except for the exit escape charge that pg&e gets. that will be a small increase. during those discussions, it became clear to us that staff seems intent on just continuing with the current track this they were prepared to do which is focusing on the shell contract. this radically changes potentials for how we're going to roll out the shell project, what pricing we will set for shell. we need the rate fairness board to make sure we're analyzing this information and if what local power is presenting is going to work we need to adopt that, and not a program that has this huge premium that's going to scare off customers. i will speak to this when we get to item 19 but i wanted to raise that that we're now in a -- we need to get back together on this and that you see what local power is doing so we can get the best deal for ratepayers that we can get. thanks. >> president torres: thank you. any further comments on item 7(b)? all right. >> next item is annual financial audit and auditor's presentati presentati

43 million in savings to the ratepayers. make sure we articulate that. >> and help put that in perspective. it's almost half of what julie just talked about. so we are doing good things. so i want to just call out that our plan sale is in january. the first half will be for refunding, the second half for the new money for the projects you already approved over the last two and a half years. >> president torres: do we need a motion on this? >> you do need a motion on this, yes. >> so moved. all good news. >> president torres: seconded by commissioner caen. all in favor signify by saying aye. >> ayes. >> president torres: motion carries. well done, todd. >> a pleasure. >> president torres: keep up the good work. do you want to comment on this item? no. item no. 11. >> secretary hood: item 11 authorize general manager to execute a grant agreement with the library training retraining fund from -- california estimated cost ofse

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that we are delivering these programs in a very conscious and deliberate way so we can save the ratepayers' money. with that, i just want to thank you guys for this award. thank you. [applause] [applause] >> if you are a consultant or you work for a company that does work for the puc, raise your hand. that's about half the room. thank you, harlan kelly. >> it does not matter just where you're going to go. it matters how you're going to get there. our team came together in 2008 and we started looking at procuring something to navigate us away from paper-based to on- line filing. >> we collect the majority of the city's revenue. all of those payments were made by piper until we undertook this project. we asked the team -- how do we modernize how we do our work and provide better customer service of the same time? that made for a lot of work in our office. >> the team is an interesting combination of talents and personalities. we have a lot of people who stepped up and became real leaders for the project. >> i've been working for the city for almost 20 years now. i've seen data entry, a paper

if the chief ratepayer can't get fiber optic service what hope do you or i or anyone listing have asthese laws are rewritten to take away your rights, invest all the power in the company and then cut out the state regulators who were there to protect your. >> host: i want to get to this, but that particular example, what would you tell a consumer that is in a situation that i know you recommend people get more involved but what can you do? aspect this book has a lot of solutions. i was at the new times and at times was right solutions as to express of ice pick this book has lots of proposed solutions. all through these books in been the same since the reform begins with you. my job as a journalist is to dig yourself out of the record, do the investigative work that is needed, explain it to you so you can understand. it's your job to go do something about it or live with the consequences. >> host: if you're living in the building in new jersey, what would you do personally? >> guest: first of all of the complaint to the company if you or i could. i would go to the state legislature an

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we are concerned changing it in way discourages residents and more cost to the ratepayers. we hope we can take the basic structure of the document and required notifications and adjustments and also engages residents in civil discourse and community power but the lifetime of this program. thank you very much. >> thank you. i have one other card. anyone else that would like to comment please come forward. thank you. >> i am david mccord and el cerrito and the chair of the sierra club bay chapter energy subcommittee, and the bottom line is that the plan is not yet ready for approval. for one thing the staff needs to fill in the details about just how you're going to reach out to the various communities in the city. supervisor olague that touched on that. and second the plan does not take into account the impacts of the roll out and pricing scenarios being developed by local power which you have contracted with to do this, and the rate fairness board wants to study these before recommending the rates which will affect what you tell people in your surveys and outreach. so we re

so there's a filter ratepayer. that person has considerations in their mind.he histories and the memories,