she commutes to rawanda as a job. then you wonder do you fall under other stereotypes? or play into that more because that is what others think of you? we have seen people we love dearly, grandfather, grandmother, mother and father, be stereotyped and sometimes they are true. it is easier to call people one word than who they are. we see this with fox news and c-span and the way we simplify public figures. people are complicated and we have been characterized as one way and i think it is fun to tell a story and share who we are. >> you went to ut, you went to yale, and did it on purpose so you would not be together? is that true? >> personally, i couldn't get into yale. let's be honest, if i could have gotten into yale might be a different narrative. we are very different. and i think one or two problems on her sat and i missed several more. we were always celebrated for who we were. my parents applauded that and never made me feel lesser thank god >> i wanted to leave texas. i was curious to go to other places. i didn't know a single person at yale so it was fun for me