ray flynn is joining muss and monsignor thomas mcsweenie. you surprised for this tectonic shift? >> i've known cardinal ratzinger now pope benedict xiv, many years before he was hope. i'm not surprised at the decision. he always said his papacy would be determined on his strength, his ability to serve god and the church in the most effective way that he possibly can, and those of us who studied the papacy and studied what's going on in rome know that the holy father has been in declining health. he has made an incredible sacrifice to the church and to society by stepping down, leading the way to somebody stronger with more opportunity to reach out to so i think this is a great sacrifice. but one he always said what was in the best interests of god and church. >> monsignor, this is a shock to the catholic community, but what does it mean for the conclave that now will meet after february 28th, and who potential could be the next pope? what names would you suggest? >> i think i would be way ahead of myself, thomas if i even went there at all.