it happens my guest, ray frost, who looks much much younger thanllyou -- he wa attendance at the 1961 rosary rally in golden gate park, a famous event in san francisco history. we were both there. i was a 12-year-old kid and you were younger, but this was father patrick payton and he came to san francisco and put on on a rally, a rosemary rally. let's look at some photos from it. let's run some slides. what these are are stills from a very very grainy documentary about 15 15 minutes long. you can see this on youtube. this is the family rosary crusade and if we can move through these files, there is a gigantic crowd. is that right? >> that is correct. >> and then the same crowd is stretching through the park. here, father peyton's mantra orn or slogan, the family that prays prays together stays together. praying the rosary was a family occupation. and then take it from here for the next slides. patrick pagan was the embassy. >> he had a mission from our lady to travel all around the world to promote the rosary and peace in the world. this was a e after wwii. people were really desirous