i'm very pleased to have my former colleague and co-editor forthis project, ray headerman to be the moderator for that panel. ray is the vice president for the buckeye institute in ohio and will be leading three of our contributors to this project in a conversation about hue we -- what opportunity is and how we can grow it in this country. let me start here with the conversation with you, david, by asking, you've made the observation, obviously, that the premise behind this index is we have the interrelation of economic and social issues. in fact, you remarked that's the first line of page one of this index. can you tell me a little bit about -- you're somebody who looks at the founders and founding principles. can you tell me from your perspective how you think they would have looked at this conversation today that we sometimes have between economic and social principles. >> yeah. i think they would have found it strange that people label themselves based on a particular subset of issues they care about and say, this is what i care about. and this is going to be my governing philosophy. i th