bratton fired back saying ray kelly has given limited details on his claims. kelly said nypd officers are not recording people as shooting victims, those who suffer graze wounds or flying glass injuries. he further claimed they altered their records starting when >> you have to take a hard look at those numbers. and i can tell you people don't feel safer in this city. >> amazing the comments you'll make when selling a book to be quite frank with you. those comments are outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard, to reduce gun violence in the city. so for him to denigrate that hard work that has resulted in shootings being reduced significantly in the city and claim that we're playing with the numbers, shame on him. >> reporter: ray kelly said members of the nypd have personally told him the current administration has changed the way shooting victims are calculated. the nypd however says that's not true and says it hasn't changed the way it it define as shooting victim in more than 20 years and that the shooting statistics are not being distorted. back to you. >>

the former police commissioner ray kelly openly questioned if his successor is cooking the books. he suggested he's down grading crimes so it appears there are fewer shootings. >> there's some redefinition going on as to what amounts to a shooting. >> i don't know why he'stsaying it. >> reporter: the suggestion, that commissaoner bratton might be fudging crime stats drew a >> a we're using the same metric system he used. >> reporter: accusing the nypd of manipulating the numbers is not new. when ray kelly was commissioner former nypd officer adrian schoolcraft said his bosses fudged the number and used arrest quotas. he file adlawsuit and settled for $600.0. what is the definition of a shooting? they looked at year end reports certified by both commissioners kelly and bratton. both documents define shootings in the identical way saying classification is based upon a bullet striking the victim. a spokesman for commissioner bratton said the definition of a shooting hasn't change in 20 years. including 12 while kelly was commissioner. if he has any specific examples of how shootings

let him backup that allegation. >>> police commissioner bill bratton slamming ray kelly. over night the nypd firing back at the excommissioner calling kelly's claims a work of fiction. stand up, be a big man and explain what you're talking about. >>> i think i am a big man. i'd like to be taller. >>> stemming from this. >> appears to be an effort to reduce the number of reported shootings. >>> accused them of reclassifying gun violence statistics to make the city appear safer. >> where you have grazed wounds on people not considered shooting victims if there is a shooting and glass strikes someone that's not considered a shooting victim which was always the way it was in the past. >> not true says brass releasing a state insisting that shooting victims are defined the same way they were when kelly held the top cop position. outrageous, my cops worked very hard to reduce gun violence in the city. >> bratton dismissing the allegations as a public city sunt. >>> i appreciate the promotion for my book and that's nice of him. >> ray kelly is in fact promoting his new book but

that' s what ray kelly brought to the city of new york. anthony: you were the most recognized names on the potential opposition for someone like mayor deblasio. if ray decides he is not going to do that, and there are people who would support me and would like to see me run, i will give it strong consideration. anthony: charlie gast marino wants to be your campaign manager, that' s what i heard. >> charlie has a vested interest. i promised him somewhat tongue-in-cheek that if i were to become mayor, he would become sanitation commissioner. hair, would be a great mayor. would you see things? >> i hope when it' over they can say he made an effort than he found it. that' s all. >> i' d like to be able to do something to change this have, but i never quite get around to putting the time into it because i' m too busy running the company. i love the country a lot more than a lot of the people of wall street, for sure. >> we are in your camp. >> when i talk about mendacity, there is so much mendacity on wall street. there' s so much almost self-ri

this drew anger from bratton who said ray kelly has been short on details on his claims. kelly, though, said nypd officers are not reporting people who suffer graze wounds or gun shrapnel injuries as shooting victims. kelly claimed the nypt has altered its recording when it comes to shooting starting when bratton became commissioner. here's what both had to say. take a listen. >> you'd have to take a hard look at those numbers. and i can tell you, people don't feel safer in this city. >> amazing the comments you'll make when you're selling a book. those comments are outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard, to reduce gun violence in the city. so for him to deny igrate that hard work and claim in some fashion that we're playing with >> reporter: and ray kelly is writing a book about his life with nypd, what the nypd has said about this and it has not changed the way it calculates crime statistics, shooting statistics in 340r7b more than 20 years and that they are down a small percentage compared to this time last year. you'll hear new comments from them coming up in the ne

. >> reporter: police commissioner bill bratton and former commissioner ray kelly are two outspoken men and on this issue, neither side is back down. police commissioner bratton says the numbers don't lie, they reflect the hard work of the men and women of his department but commissioner kelly says he has intel from the inside suggesting that bratton and his team are manipulating the numbers to make themselves and the mayor look good. feud started. >> there appears to be an effort to reduce the number of >> it's amazing the comments selling a book. >> reporter: and now the nypd is fighting back against former police commissioner ray kelly's claims that the department has crimes the make the city appear safer. >> those comments were outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard to the reduce gun violence in the city. >> i'm not going to point fingers. maybe you will want to do an investigation of this. >> reporter: late last night the, the nypd put out a fact sheet. chief among the information, the department insisted it has not changed the way it records shooting numbers. the nypd points out

george: ray kelly, speak to that issue right now. here in new york city you have so much experience trying to protect areas like times square, that has seen direct threat on video from isis and others. how do you decide where to allocate your resources when the number of targets is not infinite but huge. ray: judgment is involved. you look at the masses of the people and the history of the location and the iconic nature of the potential target. it's judgment. so far in new york, 16 plots against it and up in have come to fruition. whatever is going on you can say is working in some degree. george: the fact you have a more fortified presence does have some kind of a deterrent. one thing we learned in paris is one of the suicide bombers was turned away by security if i if i -- by security at the stadium. >> it gives a comfort level. people are uneasy. after an event they feel comforted seeing police officers. george: we expect to hear from the san bernardino police in the next few minutes. we are coming up now on about 4:45 here in the

. >> nypd commissioner on msnbc taking a direct hit at ray kelly refuting his allegations that bratton had been fixing crime statistics to make the city seem safer. >> appears to be an effort to reduce the number of reported shootings even though when we see a 20% increase in murder by guns. >> next week we will report that new york city had its safest crime year since the 1960s. >>> there has been an increase of 15 homicides in the city of that homicide by gunfire are up 22%, stabbing down by 40%. commissioner bratton saying what are normal ebbs and flows in crime trends, but also shooting victims painting the city in a favorable light. >> while some new yorkers defend bratton. >> for such a big city we do a really good job and it is really safe. >> others say they have their suspicions. >> when my neighbor, there is always violence everywhere. >> mr. kelly is selling a book the new york post is thinking he is running for mayor, i stand by my crime statistics because they are factual. >>> officials say the way they calculate crime statistics at least 2012 when ray kelly was commission

. >> commissioner bratton was still ripping ray kelly. he's claiming police and bratton are fudging figures that says crime has hit an all time low in new york city. >> we refruit everything that commissioner kelly alleged. >> police figures show shootings are down this year by about 3%. murders are up slightly from a historic low last year. yesterday bratton unleached his attack. >> for him to claim in some fashion that we're playing with the numbers, shame on him. let him back up that allegation. >> it appears to be an effort to reduce the number of reported shootings. >> under bratton and de blasio's watch the practice of young men of color has dropped dramatically. many predicted if you change kelly's policy on this crime will sky rocket. this year stop and frisk reports are down 96%. major crime has dropped 2%. >> we can have it both ways. we can live in a he -- in a low crime and safe city and have a police force that does not stop and frisk. >> what's the reason for this feud? yesterday bratton said maybe kelly is just trying to sel

and we're joined here by the former chief of the new york city police ray kelly. this whole area now being controlled by the san bernardino county sheriff's department with a host of federal and state agency joining them. >> yeah. exactly. it's a coordinated effort. you have a lot of resource there's. the fbi certainly brings extra keys and sophisticated equipment to the scene. you the manpower from the sheriff's office. and the search now has obviously widened. you can get probably to mexico in three hour time from san bernardino. so these individuals could have gone a long way aways. so you have to spread that information, anything you have. i'm assuming what they're also doing is questioning the witnesses in the hospital, people who were wounded, who are able to speak. one of the things you do is go right there and try to get immediate information. >> you know, one of the debates we've also been having in this country in the wake of these shootings and other incidents of violence is whether or not it's necessary for these local police departments to have so muc

us that the definition of a shooting hasn't changed in more than 20 years, including the 12 when ray kelly was police commissioner. and if kelly has any ideas or specific examples of the redefinition or reclassification of shootings, the nypd would like to know. i'm lisa evers, fox 5 news. back to you. dari: thank you, lisa. well, a young woman from newark has made it her mission to educate and empower the next generation. steve: zachary shows us how. >> this is for girls affected by homicide that are served. >> reporter: according to the fbi, newark has one of the highest murder rates in the country. in a lot of cases, it means youngsters are growing up without a parent. inside this charter school, a 20-year-old college student is >> a big part of the focus is on creating young girls who are going to change newark, the country, the world. the other part is being able to have a safe community. it feels like family. >> it was awesome. >> reporter: outside a class, i was asked how do you tell your seven-year-old daughter over the phone that dad has been killed? start with what they know. "li

former commissioner ray kelly in a nasty war of words with the man who replaced him, bill bratton. it is not pretty. josh einiger has that story. >> reporter: the relationship goes back a very long way, bill, for nearly 20 years the police department has been run by these two men. first bill bratton, then ray kelly, and now again bill bratton, their relationship tonight reached a rolling boil when one accused the other basic value cooking the books to make the city seem safer you're a big man. explain what you're talking about. >> i think i am a big man. i like to be taller, but -- >> reporter: the war of words when bratton was asked about kelly's vague comments that the nypd has reclassified some crime to make it appear safer. >> for him to denigrate that hard work that shootings being reduced significantly and claim that we're playing with the numbers, shame on him. let him back up that allegation. >> reporter: and so tonight commissioner got specific claiming the department has reclassified things like graze wounds, no longer counting them, and similar cases as shooting incident

or close. >> thank you. >>> a battle is building between former new york city police commissioner ray kelly and the current police commissioner police commissioner bill bratton -- and the current police commissioner bill bratton. we are live now in lower manhattan. >> reporter: good morning, lori. police commissioner bill bratton says the crime stat, the numbers don't lie. his men and women are out here to keep the city safe. but former commissioner kelly says he has intel from the inside suggesting that bratton and the team are now manipulating the numbers to make themselves and the mayor look good. this is how the nypd family feud started. >> appeared to be an effort to reduce the number of reported shootings. >> it's amazing the comments you will make when you're selling a book. >> reporter: and now the nypd is fighting back against former police commissioner ray kelly's claim that the department has reclassified some violent crimes to make the city appear safer. >> the comments are outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard to reduce gun violence in the city. >> not going to point fingers

what we also heard from the chief, ray kelly, the active shooter protocol was put into effect as soon as they got that first 911 call. what does that mean exactly? >> it means that the officers have been trained. as i say, columbine changed a lot of things. and the primary goal is to save lives. so officers responding have to enter that location as quickly as they reasonable can, rather than waiting to construct a team. and apparently that's i think that's what the chief was alluding to. >> brad garrett, we heard from one eyewitness that the suspects who were in the car started to leave and in a quite deliberate manner, relatively slowly. but now some three hours after they may have escaped the scene, they cowluld have gotten quite far. >> somebody mentioned earlier without, you know, something beyond the suv, did they find it? is there -- do they have witnesses of getting into another vehicle? all of those -- it's like the timeline of when they left to where they are now, that's all the pieces we appear to be missing. so that's really the key. can you put that together? so finding th

detective joseph lemm seems to indicate a determination to push back against former commissioner ray kelly. >> he is engaging in politics and as you know the first casualty of politics is usually the truth. mr. kelly is selling a book. "new york post" is reporting he is thinking of running for mayor. i stand by my crime statistics because factual. >> reporter: it's an nypd family feud made for the tabloids front pages. kelly who led the department for 12 years that under bratton the nypd is manipulates gun crimes statistics. >> when you have graze wounds on people, and they are not considered shooting victims, if there's a shooting and glass strikes someone, that's not considered a shooting victim which is always the way it was in the past. >> reporter: tuesday night the nypd sent around a fact sheet saying kelly is wrong and ska tis sticks are calculated -- statistics are calculated the same as under kelly. briefings he began in 2014. >> every month i stand before the toughest media in the world and we talk about crime statistics. in his 12 years that never >> reporter: kelly says new yor

ray kelly says a 20% increase of homicides by guns and overall shootings is down. one is saying it's up and one is saying it's down. >> i'm not sure what commissioner kelly is talking about. a 20% increase in homicides by guns, while there's a decrease in homicides by knives. in a city of 8.5 million where the difference is a tiny handful, those are the normal ebbs and flows. the more important point is there is no way of counting or categorizing than any way it was under commissioner kelly's regime. these are the procedures we invented in the '90s where commissioner bratton constituin. and the same policies that commissioner kelly went by when he was in and we continue to use. it's hard to tell what he's talking about. >> and when i speak to him i will ask what he is talking about. happy new year. we'll see you out there or you can watch us here on cnn. we'll be covering. >>> when we come back, another republican drops out of the presidential race and it's not donald trump. but he has a few things to say about his rivals tonight. don't go anywhere. looking for 24/

john: ray kelly, thank you very much. great to have him here again. the book is "vigilance." more from our cruz and trump interviews coming up. --n: and now mark: and now for part two of my conversation earlier today in iowa with senator ted cruz. i asked about policy differences between himself and marco. i know you said you don't want to pick fights between i want to askut you to compare yourself not on personality, personal things, but on substance. how would you characterize the foreign policy difference, philosophy, record between you and senator rubio, who is been outspoken criticizing your record a national severity and foreign policy? sen. cruz: well, it is kind of amusing, super pac supporting marco rubio is spending money here in iowa on nasty personal attack ads. they are trying to suggest quite literally that i am in some ways responsible for the paris terror attacks, which is silly and i think iowa voters are laughing -- mark: how would you say here is philosophy on foreign policy and a national security and here is the rubio one? sen. cruz: i described the spect

and we're joined here by the former chief of the new york city police ray kelly. this whole area now being controlled by the san bernardino county sheriff's department with a host of federal and state >> yeah. exactly. it's a coordinated effort. you have a lot of resource there's. the fbi certainly brings extra keys and sophisticated equipment to the scene. you the manpower from the sheriff's office. and the search now has obviously widened. in three hour time from san bernardino. so these individuals could have gone a long way aways. so you have to spread that information, anything you have. i'm assuming what they're also doing is questioning the witnesses in the hospital, people who were wounded, who are able to speak. one of the things you do is go right there and try to get immediate information. >> you know, one of the debates we've also been having in this country in the wake of these shootings and other incidents of violence is whether or not it's necessary for these local police departments to have so much military-style equipment. here is a situation wher

chief ray kelly, we heard from the chief there, the san bernardino chief, that they're going to be looking at the closed circuit cameras inside the facility which might provide more clues. >> yeah. it might give them a picture of the individuals. i think this is the type of event that's going to generate lots of phone calls, lots of tips coming in. they may very well be of value. but going through that information is an herculean task. >> assuming these gunmen stay on the loose through the evening, what kind of precautions will be taken tomorrow? would schools be open? to work? >> well, in the immediate area there, i think you'd probably see that. a lockdown type approach. as you get further away from san bernardino you'll see less of that. but hopefully there'll be more information through the night to give us some direction. but yeah, i think there'll be a lot of concern in that community and other communities in the area if in fact there's nothing more developing during the night. >> pierre, you're always trying to balance out the need to get the perpetrators and at the same time try to

what we also heard from the chief, ray kelly, the active shooter protocol was put into effect as soon as they got that first 911 call. what does that mean exactly? >> it means that the officers have been trained. as i say, columbine changed a lot of things. and the primary goal is to save lives. so officers responding have to enter that location as quickly as they reasonable can, rather than waiting to construct a team. and apparently that's i think that's what the chief was alluding to. >> brad garrett, we heard from one eyewitness that the suspects who were in the car started to leave and in a quite deliberate manner, relatively slowly. but now some three hours after they may have escaped the scene, they could have gotten quite far. >> somebody mentioned earlier they could be in mexico. yes. without, you know, something beyond the suv, did they find it? is there -- do they have witnesses of getting into another vehicle? all of those -- it's like the timeline of when they left to where they are now, that's all the pieces we appear to be missing. so that's really the key. can you put

what we also heard from the chief, ray kelly, the active shooter protocol was put into effect as soon as they got that first 911 call. what does that mean exactly? have been trained. as i say, columbine changed a lot of things. lives. so officers responding have to enter that location as quickly as they reasonable can, rather team. and apparently that's i think that's what the chief was alluding to. >> brad garrett, we heard from one eyewitness that the suspects who were in the car started to leave and in a quite deliberate manner, relatively slowly. they may have escaped the scene, they cowl uld have gotten quite far. >> somebody mentioned earlier they could be in mexico. yes. without, you know, something beyond the suv, did they find it? is there -- do they have witnesses of getting into another vehicle? all of those -- it's like the timeline of when they left to where they are now, that's all the pieces we appear to be missing. so that's really the key. can you put that together? so finding the suv really is a doing right now. >> i want to go to matt gutman back on the scene right

is our system working that ray kelly is comfortable with this?> look at it this way, we had a horrific attack on september 11th, 2001. up until november 13th, the attack took place, we haven't had another successful attack here. that's a long run. the system is not perfect by any means. the law enforcement, the fbi, rolling up these people over 70 cases that have been made in the last 14 months, 16 months. i think that's a good record. stuart: ray kelly, thank you for being with us. very important. we appreciate it. >> thank you. stuart: two new polls that they tell you about, i'm going to tell you about them. first of all, from iowa, it's an iowa poll, it's a monmouth poll, this is iowa. ted cruz second, rubio, and this is taken after the san bernardino poll. >> and this was taken before, during and after the shooting. trump 33, cruz 20. carson 16, rubio 11 and bush way wn at 4: all right, let's address the trump issue. do you think that trump's proposals could give him a bump in the polls? >> well, that's what's been happening. every time presi

former police commissioner ray kelly suggesting the city's crime stats may not be what they are cracked up to be, crime may not be as low as possible. do you think -- as low as bill deblasio is saying. >> absolutely correct. when bill bratton left los reporting for duty, lapd, he was accused of fudging the numbers there. this should not be a shock. look the other day. the city bike stolen at twice the rate they were the year before, assessed propertywise and $200,000 which makes it a felony crime if you snatch it. all of a sudden, and why bidi meeting with citibank officials to figure out how they could fudge the assessment of the bicycle below $100,000 so it will no longer be a felony, misdemeanor, show up on stats. this is what you call technology, you fudge the numbers, make felonies into misdemeanors and you will look better. does anybody really feel safer in a street in new york city? any people out there walking around gee whiz, it is so much safer now than it was under rudy guiliani or michael bloomberg? is reality. >> you said there would be no homeless people in the subways. si

those accusations coming from the predecessor ray kelly. they suggested the n.y.p.d. changed the definition of a shooting to make it appear as if there's fewer. bratten dismissed his comments on msnbc's morning joe. >> he's engaging in politics and so kelly is selling a book and the new york post says he's thinking of running for mayor. i stand mind my statistics because they are factual. >> a representative for kelly released a statement saying he didn't think it was appropriate to react to remarks as the city warned an n.y.p.d. detective. >> at the same time the n.y.p.d. says they're trying to make the crime statistics more transit parent. they revealed a new online site that will provide crime data for major felony defenses. they hope the public uses it to increase their awareness about the crime in their city and new neighborhoods. it's called n.y.c. open data. you can find it by going to nyc.gov. >>> in the bronx detectives are trying to find who stabbed a man in a fatal robbery. is and tried to rob him. they stabbed him several times in the torso. >> take a look

what we also heard from the chief, ray kelly, the active shooter protocol was put into effect as soon as they got that first 911 call. what does that mean exactly? >> it means that the officers have been trained. as i say, columbine changed a lot of things. and the primary goal is to save lives. so officers responding have to enter that location as quickly as they reasonable can, rather than waiting to construct a team. and apparently that's i think alluding to. >> brad garrett, we heard from one eyewitness that the suspects who were in the car started to leave and in a quite deliberate manner, relatively slowly. they may have escaped the scene, they cowl uld have gotten quite far. >> somebody mentioned earlier they could be in mexico. yes. without, you know, something beyond the suv, did they find it? is there -- do they have witnesses of getting into another vehicle? all of those -- it's like the timeline of when they left to where they are now, that's all the pieces we appear to be missing. so that's really the key. can you put that together? so finding the suv really is a doing ri

the second straight day former nypd commissioner bill bratton fired back at former commissioner ray kelly who accused them of lowering stats bratton said it is out ridge just and not just a publicity stunt. >> the first casualty of politics is the truth. mr. kelly is selling a book. "new york post" reports that he is thinking of running for mayor. i stand by my crime statistics because they are fact all and the truth. >> kelly continues to stand by his belief that the department cooked the books. members of the department have told him that the current ad american station has changed the way shooting victims are calculated all in effort to reduce the reported number of shootings. that is what is happening in the news tonight. joining us right now. audrey is here. pressure is on. new year's eve. it is not so bad, right. >> temperatures will be actually pretty nice considering new year's past. >> yeah, how lucky are we. >> ball drop previous years, not the case this year, folks. in fact it will be relatively comfortable. a little bit chilly but still a pretty nice new year's eve. >> sounds

commissioner bill bratton on the offensive today fighting back against accusations by former commissioner ray kelly that the nypd manipulates crime data. yesterday kelly said that the current administration excluded some incidents from gun violence statistics and that drew a strong denial from the nypd. commissioner bratton hinted an ulterior motive. >> he is engaging in politics. as you know the first casualty of politics is usually the truth mr. . kelly is selling a book. -- mr. kelly is selling a book. the "new york post" says he is thinking of running for mayor. i stand by my crime statistics because they are factual, the truth. >> commissioner bratton says crime statistics show that 2015 will be new york city's safest year in modern history. >>> an update tonight on a woman caught on video slashing two subway riders. the woman was arraigned today in brooklyn criminal court a day after surrendering to police. the 28-year-old faces assault and weapons charges. the judge set bail at $20,000. this cell phone video showed her in a violent confrontation on an "a" train this month in brooklyn. both s

special guests include former nypd commissioner ray kelly, former reagan adviser art laugher. restaurant chain in texas is telling the pc crowd to take a hike this holiday weekend as signs saying notice this store is politically incorrect. we say merry christmas, god bless america, we salute our flag and give thanks to our troops, police officers, and firefighters. if this offends you, you're welcome to leave in god we trust. now, juan, i love that sign. let me guess, you have a problem with this? >> no, i would agree with everything on that sign. i just think there is a political message implicit which is all you liberals, go on your merry way. take a hike. >> one seems it's a liberal that has a problem with in god we trust. we can't say god. we can't say the pledge of allegiance in schools. >> you can say god. you just have to have separation of church and state. i mean there are rules to. this i know when anyone says to me merry christmas they mean well. if they then say i hate jews, i know that is a problem. it's the holiday spirit. >> you're okay with this sign as well? >

current commissioner bill bratton fired back at his predecessor ray kelly yesterday after kelly suggestedhat the police department was manipulating key crime scene stats that make it seem like the city is safer than it actually is. >> those comments were outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard, to reduce gun violence in the city. so for him to denigrate that hard work that has resulted in shootings being reduced significantly in this city, and claim in some fashion that we're playing with the numbers, shame on him. let him back up that allegation. he's been too busy to respond, as you know, to all of you in terms of your questions about that allegation. well, if you're going to make it, stand up. you're a big man. and explain what you're talking about. you don't need any follow-up. i've laid the challenge down to him. >> -- to back up his claim saying the department has reclassified some incidents to bring down the totals. >> i think i am a big man. -- to reduce the number of reported shootings, even though when we see a 20% increase in murder by guns, certainly in 2015. >> now there wer

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they thought, under mayor bloomberg and ray kelly, that they were doing that with their stop-and-frisk. they did take a lot of guns out. we've cut back on that. would a little bit of stop-and-frisk help bring some guns off? >> well, if you look at the facts, the facts are that when mayor de blasio came in -- and many of us supported him because he supported cutting back on stop-and-frisk -- crime did not go up for two years. we've had a surge in shootings that are gang-related this year, but stop-and-frisk was brought down for two years, so the numbers don't speak to that. people said that immediately after stop-and-frisk goes down, we're going to see the numbers go up. it didn't happen. and i think that to violate innocent people and to push them to the side and their civil liberties to the side with them is not the answer. >> so then what is the answer? how do you get rid of these guns? legislator before -- legislatures before -- certainly in washington. a lot of these guys -- the nra is a very powerful lobby group. they give campaign contributions. they're very powerful. and congres

. >>> as new york's police commissioner after 9/11, ray kelly stood on the front lines.ig issues confronting terrorism with race and policing. he helped transform the nypd into a premier. i had a chance to catch up with him recently to talk about his concerns for police officers and whether we need to see terror threats as an act of war. do you believe we're actively at war? >> welg, i'm not certain what the semantics mean. we're fighting a fight overseas and fighting here in the u.s. and these people want to come here and kill us. we talk about al qaeda. we talk about isis. we talk about boko haram. a lot of these are just distinctions without a difference. it's important to remember this is radical islamists who want to come here and kill us. that's their mission in life. >> in the book though, you have chilling stories of 16 foiled terror plots against this city. >> yep. there were 16 plots and some of them were the result of great work on the part of the fbi. great work on the part of the nypd and sheer luck. for instance, fashul assad wasn't on anybody's radar scree

>> yes, ray kelly. they had him on. they were respectful, at the same time trying to humiliate him. rosanna: your father has a good sense of humor. >> he was the straight man. by the way, rosanna, you and i came up during the production. it was cool. they talked about "good day new york" and gill says i really want that rosanna scotto's phone number and implied he wanted to marry you. rosanna: did he hear about my santa claus outfit? >> great friends, great so just a fag nif sent performance. a lot of fun. >> what time did you stay out? >> mid nightish. i had to go to after party, rosanna. i can't run home and go to my room. rosanna: yes, only one once. looks like fun. thanks for mentioning us. did he mention mike woods? greg: i'm sorry mike. mike: what are they again? first of all to the fog in the region, it is starting to improve the conditions around the tristate. that is good news. jersey shore, you are in the clear now of the fog or the dense fog advisory, it is lifting for you. you have another 54 minutes on long island. same thing for you coastal sections of connecticut and

the former police commissioner ray kelly claims the department has reclassified some violent crime to make the safer. and in response, the city released a fact sheet that insists it has not changed the numbers. >> refute everything that commissioner kelly alleged, that we are able to rebutt we have not changed anything since his time as commissioner. i don't know what his sources inside the police department -- i don't know what his inside the police department. >> and commissioner bratton claims he is more open about the crime data than kelly ever was. >>> a man facing a judge accused of killing his own father. police arrested 24-year-old jordan johnson for the death of his father russell it feel elder johnson found with multiple stab wounds after police say an argument with his son turned violent. officers found the father barely clinging to life. he died a short time later at the hospital. >>> a break from the rain so far today but more we are told is heading our way. you can see it's starting to feel like winter. clouds, you see there, blocking the sun right now. and meteorologist

rudy giuliani and mike bloomberg and bratton and ray kelly have dropped the murder rate in new york to 200 a year. lot of those victims were black. the effect in the role world of black lives matters is lessen police. to be a big issue in the election and the campaign. you see the continued use of the technology. considerbaltimore, i covered those riots in baltimore, vow five more cases. they're spread out. the tension in that city hasn't been addressed. >> very quick, last word. >> i have to say, always going back to black on black crime pretty much what you're saying, it's the fact of white people do when they want to face reality. the fact of the matter is, no one in the black community are saying police are the sole problem. >>> when we get back, i'll introduce you to tommy jones, a homeless veteran on the streets from our abc stations. veterans living on the streets this holiday season. i met up with one of those vets. >> this is my tent. i put these trees in front of >> it this has been home. >> yes, right here. >> reporter: tony jones knows a thing two about camouflaging a tent.

. >> bill bratton firing former top cop ray kelly who accused the department of falsely reporting shooting stats to low are the city's crime rate. he called the claim outrageousp. >> the comments you will make when you are selling a book, quite frankly. those comments were outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard, to reduce gun violence the city. for him to put in that hard work that result in shootings being reduced in the city and claim in some fashion they were playing with numbers, shame on him. let him back up that al bation. >> frank kelley released a statement today in response though bratton's remark ares defending the stance on the crime stats saying members of the new york city police department has informed me that the calculated in an effort to reduce the reported number. >> three brothers joining the nypd. he watched as the three and 22-year-old twins were all sworn in together part of the marley 1200 new officers graduating from the police academy. they thought one of the boys join the force, but not all lee. >> johnny boy there who graduated with honors. he has my shield. th

reporter: among those attending, ray kelly, lem survived by his wife and 22 2 young children was a veteran of the nypd. >> family man, protecting us here. and here we are during the holidays without families, it was something to be grateful for that we can feel safe here, while he is there. reporter: lem's funeral set for wednesday, he will receive full military and policard nals, timothy cardinal dolan will offer the funeral mass. >> the lawyer represents a man charging a shooting in the long island mall last week is hinting at a psychological defense, claiming his client is confused he asked to see a watch then flashed a gun that went off, struckeled with a security guard, lee has pleaded not guilty. >> police in nassau county say a carbon min min oxide leak in a home sent 6 people to the hospital, the heater was on for first time this winter and was unaware that a exhausts pipe had been blocked. >> when we were cleaning up we blocked it, there was some things blocking it. so that is why it done trip. steve: take a second look at we head to winter, people people were taken to the hospita

morning, police commissioner bill bratton says there's no merit to claims made by his predecessor ray kelly. former police commissioner accusing the nypd and the de blasio administration of misreporting crime stats, especially shootings, to make the city appear safer. in an op-ed in this morning's quote, kelly has yet to cite a single incident in which a shooting was downgraded or miscounted. >>> 6:04. time for weather and traffic on the 4s. good morning, chris. >> good morning, kerry. lofty numbers for this time of the year, this hour of the morning. poughkeepsie is 37. monticello well above freezing, as is newburgh. visibility not a problem in and close to the city. it is down to one-eighth of a mile in islip. it drops to 3/4 miles in more morristown. white plains, ten miles. very, very isolated with the fog. the clouds will break up, it gets breezier later in the day. while lauren scala plans her big party, here's emily west. >> build that pedestal for her in times square. there will be extra trains if you're heading to times square. net row metro north will be on a modified schedule. fo

by folks liketed ray kelly and rudy giuliani and maybe former mayor bloomberg that we ought to somehow balance the benefits that groups of people such as african-americans and young african-american men in particular receive from plummeting crime rates without truly acknowledging the cost to them in terms of enforcement. here i am not just talking about incarceration. the shortsighted and deeply flawed. their arguments pro mess is that aggressive policing is necessary -- their argument is that aggressive policing is necessary to crime reduction. that is not true. it is critical to understand the promotion of public trust is associated with voluntary compliance with the law. this means that policing agencies can achieve their goal of enhancing public safety while at the same time pursuing the mandate of increasing public trust through greater commitment to legitimacy and free speech and justice. while the prescription is relatively straightforward, the process of taking the medicine is not. one might imagine the old treatment for rabies. i am probably dating myself but when i was a kid,

. >>> new york city police commissioner bill bratton demanding that ray kelly reveal the source that told him the nypd is misreporting crime statistics. kelly claims the document has reclassified some violent crimes to make the city appear safer. bratton insists there's been no change since kelly held the job. >> refute everything that commissioner kelly alleged that we are. we have not changed anything since his time as commissioner. at 6:00, dave evans with a new reason behind while kelly and bratton are fruding. >>> a man mugged and stabbed to death on a bronx street. police were called to the williamsberg section this morning. he's not been identified but be in his 20s. the murder was caught on surveillance camera and police are searching for as many as six suspects. >>> a group of at least six teenagers robbed two newsstands on the upper west side and assaulted the clerks. the teens robbed a newsstand near broadway and west 67th street on december 18th. one of the teens took a bottle and threw it at the clerk causing a gash above his cry. they stole money, candy and e cigarettes

ray kelly was at the conference and weighed in to fox 5. >> we need some capacity to get into encrypted material, certainly when we're talking about a major attack on the homeland, the potential of that. >> reporter: the council said the purpose was to discuss the role of intelligence gathering, emphasizing any country is only as safe as the credible information it can gather and acon. from the upper east side, antwan lewis, fox 5 news. dari: a bomb square forced new jersey movie theatre to be evacuated on opening night of the force awakens. moviegoers were left standing outside a theatre today while this is coming after a series of threateninnotes were found in the bathroom. the all clear was given and then the theatre was reopened two hours later. this is the second threat at the same theatre in just less than a week. steve: on long island, a special screening of the force awakens went tosleep. malfu gaeepa stadium csed thcro bla and they never were able to gett ing. vioers were given tickets to anotrowinsh dari: sml cream shop is helping promote the biggest movie in the gaxy. stev th

. >> war of words between nypd commissioner bill bratton and former top cop ray kelly continued to heat up. second straight day, kelly fired back at bratton falsely reporting shooting statistics to lower the city's crime rate. he called those claims outrage just and nothing more than a >> first casualty of politics is the truth. mr. kelly selling a book. "new york post" says he is considering running for mayor. i stand by my crime statistics because they are factual. they are the truth. >> former commissioner kelly continues to stand by his belief that the department has cooked the books. members of the department told him that the current administration has changed way shooting victims are calculated all in effort to reduce reported number of shootings. >> a drug maker that was taken over by martin shkreli is seeking bankruptcy protection two weeks after his arrest on securities fraud. he was known best for hiking price of a life-saving bill from 13 bucks to 750 bucks. he is second former hedge fund manager to face charges. tureing pharmaceuticals is cutting jobs and seeking a new ceo

the idea promoted by folks like ray kelly and rudy giuliani and maybe former mayor bloomberg that we ought to somehow balance the benefits that groups of people such as african-americans and young african-american men in particular receive without truly acknowledging that cost to them in terms of enforcement -- and here i'm not just talking about incarceration. it is shortsighted and deeply flawed. it is because their argument's premise is that aggressive policing is necessary to to achieve crime reduction. that is just false. critical to understand here is that promotion of public trust is actually associated with voluntary compliance with the law. this means policing agencies can achieve their goal of enhancing public safety while at the same time pursuing the mandate of increasing public trust through greater commitment to legitimacy and procedural justice. while the prescription, i think, is relatively straightforward, the process of taking the medicine is not. one might imagine the treatment for rabies. i'm probably dating myself, but when i was a kid, the treatment for rabies w

steve: former nypd commissioner ray kelly another person who this morning on "good day new york" he pointed out that the constitution protects citizens and noncitizens alike. >> it may or may not be good politics but i think it's unconstitutional. the supreme court held the constitutional rights go beyond u.s. citizens. i think we have to be more alert. we have to look at our world through the prism of what happened in san bernardino and be alert. steve: kelly added that the san bernardino shootings will lead to a change in thinking about how handling terror threats is conducted away from large cities to a more national approach. dari: texas governor greg abbott and senator ted cruz also of texas are backing a bill that would give any state the right to reject refugees for security concerns. that follows the arrival of a family of six syrian refugees in texas with more on the way. now a syrian couple and their two children also settled in indiana last night, despite objections from the governor there. in a fight with the fda. dari: how kind is responding to accusations that its snacks are n

rudy giuliani and mike bloomberg and bratton and ray kelly have dropped the murder rate in new york from 2,000 a year to 200 a year and many of those victims black lives matters is lessen tough policing that will be bad for blacks. >> race relations will continue to be a big issue in the election and the campaign. part of the reason is not just the continued use of the technology. but consider baltimore, i covered those riots in baltimore, you have five more cases. they're spread out. the tension in that city hasn't been addressed. you can see that boil over once again. >> very quick, last word. >> i have to say, always going back to black on black crime pretty much what you're saying, it's the fact of white people do when they want to face reality. the fact of the matter is, is that no one in the black community are saying police are the sole problem. part of the problem that's beenic mothered. >>> when we get back, i'll introduce you to tommy jones, a >>> in our "sunday spotlight" this morning, a look at a fight to end homeless veterans. despite a dramatic decline, ther are still more