intelligence chief for allowing the side well for more on this i'm joined by former cia officer ray mcgoverna well as a former cia officer you were the perfect person to watch what you reckon went on behind the scenes in this prison. well the orders went out from president bush and vice president cheney and that these high high value suspects were to be given enhanced interrogation techniques and that a course meant that it needed a secure place to do them the story broke in a crash many years ago but not its own out of holes pretty much it made it that a small site there was condoned by the secret service at all and by their intelligence people and by their top officials you know how it came to be of course it is probably some money that passed hands i won't get you very interested in the results of this investigation to see how much the head of the intelligence was able to crew from this kind of thing but the general thing is just for iraq wait for me . if if you don't realize i used to be an expert on the soviet union and these the kinds of things stalin did and this is a case that makes

existing evidence the previous former intelligence chief is already facing charges former cia officer ray mcgovern explains the significance of the revelations. these high high values suspects were to be given enhanced interrogation techniques and that of course meant that he needed a secure place to do them this story broke in a press many years ago but not until now and the polls pretty much it made it that a small site up there was condoned by the secret service of poland by their intelligence people and by their top officials who chose to call it finally facing up to this problem and holding people accountable accountability is a noun day has been missing from the vocabulary of washington officials and even jurists the us administration has asserted the right to continue to do rendition but i have no indication that the kind of abuses that happened and the cheney bush regime are continuing anywhere else in the world when these types of painful and severe cuts and austerity in italy the autonomous region of south tirol in the cradle of the alps stands as one of the country's few islands of pros

. >> i'm ray mcgovern from professionals for sanity. >> please speak up, sir. >> okay. i see a kind of surreal aspect to this discussion. there are two elephants that are in the room that are either referred to by euphamisms or not at all. one is the domestic political considerations. what is meant by that is the israel lobby and our president's intention to march in lockstep with israel. that's number one. number two are the facts. and this is my question. it is widely recognized, not only by the u.s. intelligence community, but by the israeli community, intelligence community and by both defense minut ministers that iran is not working on a nuclear weapon. the way it's phrased is iran has not yet decided to work on a nuclear weapon. english tells me they're not working on a nuclear weapon. we have all this rhetoric about we have to stop them from doing. and if they're not working on a nuclear weapon, how do we stop them from not working on a nuclear weapon? the last thing here is that the defense minutister of israel ga an interview on the 18th of january. he was aske

existing evidence the country's former intelligence chief already faces charges former cia officer ray mcgovern explains the significance of the revelations. these high high values suspects were to be given enhanced jury asian techniques inadequate meant that they needed a secure place to do them the story broken address many years ago but not until now and at the polls pretty much it needed that a small cited air was condoned by the secret service of poland by their intelligence people and by their top officials who doze topola so finally facing up to this problem and holding people accountable accountability is a noun that has been missing from the vocabulary of washington officials and even jurists the us administration has asserted the right to continue to do rendition but i have no indication that the kind of abuses that happened and cheney bush arcades healing anywhere else in the world. turning now to our is breaking news story thirty two people confirmed dead after a passenger plane crashes in russia's year olds just a for takeoff eleven have been rescued and taken to the hospital all o

evidence the country's former intelligence chief is already facing charges former cia officer ray mcgovernexplains the significance of the revelations. these high high values suspects were to be given enhanced interrogation techniques and that of course meant that it needed a secure place to do them the story broke in our press many years ago but not it till now and at the polls pretty much it needed that a small site up there was condoned by the secret service opposed by their intelligence people and by their top officials who chose to call it so finally receiving up to this problem and holy people accountable accountability is a noun that has been missing from the vocabulary of washington officials and even jurists the us administration has asserted the right to continue to do rendition but i have no indication that the kind of abuses that happen and elite and cheney bush regime are continuing anywhere else in the world. updating you now on our breaking news this hour thirty one people confirmed dead after a passenger plane crashed in russia's year olds just after takeoff twelve have sur

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. >> by ray mcgovern from veteran intelligence. >> please speak up on the fair. >> ics server a servile aspect discussion. there are two elephants in the room that are either referred to by euphemism or not refer to it all. one is the euphemism for domestic considerations. what is not by that is the israel lobby and our president contention to march in lock smith with israel. number two are the facts. this is my question. it is widely recognized, not only by the u.s. israeli community -- intelligence community and by both defense ministers that iran is not working on a nuclear weapon. iran has not yet i'd need a nuclear weapon. now we have all this rhetoric about we have to stop them if they're not working on a nuclear weapon, how do we stop them from not working on a nuclear weapon? last thing here is the defense minister of israel gave an interview in 18 of january and let's ask him if you agree with the american that iran has not yet built a nuclear weapon? he said yes, next question. is that it doesn't matter. it doesn't matter because it happened at the iaea. when they do that come