let's welcome onto the program now former cia officer ray mcgovern for his take great good to see you just to sum it up the appeals court find the program was unlawful i'm not the intelligence officials who defended it were not telling the truth do you think those who broke the law will be brought to justice. unfortunately i think is only a small chance that will happen. these people and we're talking about big fish ok. which are you robert muller talk about john brennan a talk about james komi which i heard james clapper these are the heads of the intelligence agencies under. obama and they proceeded with the feeling that they were immune to being held accountable for violating the law and the constitution and i hope they'll be proven wrong but i suspect that this will wither away and no one no one important will be held accountable for this grievous grievous violation of what in our country was the 4th amendment which prohibits explicitly this kind of thing where does this leave the n.s.a. ray is the path now open for legal action against the agency. well there are several court cas

case and that it was a violation of the foreign intelligence surveillance act former cia officer ray mcgovern believes that the spy the ruling it's likely that no officials will be held to account. it takes our courts several years often to to catch up with illegal activities and finally here after how many years now they've said oh yeah yeah it's illegal at least people and we're talking about big fish ok and they proceeded with the feeling that they were immune to being held accountable for violating the law and the constitution and i hope they'll be proven wrong but i suspect that this will wither away and no one no one important will be held accountable for this grievous grievous violation of what in our country was the 4th amendment which prohibits explicitly this kind of thing. may relate to the theme the u.k. is looking to update its official secrets act a law commission that advises the government say's there needs to be tougher sentences for those who leak data and there are plenty of other turns as all name way to tailor breaks down. drops to create said double agents the cold war m

case and that it was a violation of the foreign intelligence surveillance act former cia officer ray mcgovern believes that despite the ruling it's likely no officials will be held to account. it takes our courts several years often chick to catch up with illegal activities and finally here after how many years now they've said oh yeah yeah it's illegal at least people and we're talking about big fish ok and they proceeded with the feeling that they were immune to being held accountable for violating the law and the constitution and i hope they'll be proven wrong but i suspect that this will wither away and no one no one important will be held accountable for this grievous grievous violation of what in our country was the 4th amendment which prohibits explicitly this kind of thing. ok that was your right up to date with more than half an. hour when i was told seemed wrong. when all roads just don't hold. any you get to shape out just to become educated and in detroit because of the trail. when so many find themselves worlds apart we choose to look for common ground. anyone who is a real caref