i want to bring in ray suarez, a veteran journalist and currently visiting professor at amhurst college and jason johnson, politics editor. let me start with you, jason. i marched on sheriff arpaio and debated him on several occasions. let's be clear that he was convicted of racial profiling. i mean he was profiling latinos. >> yes. >> pulling them over and checking out whether they were immigrants, many of them american citizens, american-born citizens. for the president to issue his first pardon to someone that was convicted, not just accused, convicted of racial profiling, three weeks after charlottesville, what does this mean? >> i've been saying this all along. the president of the united states is a terrorist sympathizer. he sympathizers with far right groups, he sympathizes with whites nationalists and this is just par for the course. it's not just a matter of racial profiling. it's not just a matter of just rounding up latinos whenever he did some sort of raid and not paying attention. it's the people who died in his prisons, abuse of women, putting c cameras in women's bathroom