at iran's nuclear program and its missile testing with david sanger of "the new york times" and ray takei of the council on foreign relations. >> this was a large-scale election. this took democracy to new, undefined levels. it was a new model. and i'm quite surprised there are people who chant slogans of democracy but when it comes to iran they decide to back a minority -- i mean, i thought democracy meant the rule of the majority, so how come it is that the american and british politicians decide to support the minority? i mean, don't they believe in the definition of democracy they gave us themselves? >> charlie: one could argue that -- >> one could argue that, with this revelation, on the one hand, the u.s. has gained a negotiating advantage that they have not had in three and a half years of talks. it's always been the iranians who seemed to be taking the initiative. here, now, the obama administration has not only made the iranians have to decide how it is they're going to respond to the u.s. offers but they've also got to explain why a completely peaceful program has a secret locat