ray takeyh, what do you say? >> it may be true. an unsettling speech in a number of ways. for one thing, he suggests that despite what people say the office of the supreme leader has been overseeing the details of these negotiations, that is not true, which raises questions on whose behalf are the foreign ministers negotiating and if the boss approves or disapproves at this point and outlines terms of agreement continue districted by his own negotiators namely comprehensive sanctions relief immediately and an inspection regime that falls short of anticipationings raised regarding verification of the agreement. >> woodruff: what contradiction? >> he wants all sanctions lifted immediately in a comprehensive, categorical matter and the day the agreement is signed, while everybody recognizes there is going to be some stages in terms of sanctions relief and in terms of negotiation and verification he excluded military and security institutions. >> woodruff: alireza nader how do you read that that he's saying something that's clearly very different from what the u.s. has said ab

. >> rose: we continue looking at the iranian deal with ray takeyh and gary sick. >> in this case you know iran has put it under-- itself under the most intense scrutiny that it could possibly have. so that isn't going to go away at the end of ten years. people are talking about a sunset clause. it's not really a sunset clause. actually the inspection of their centrifuge line and the mining and milling of uranium goes on for 20 25 years. >> right. >> rose: so this is-- this is-- i really think we ought to be honest with ourselves. that this is, in fact an accomplishment a significant accomplishment and with all of the concerns about what may happen 25 years from now you know i will take the 25 years as opposed to a nuclear strike. >> rose: in and in a two-part conversation the former chairman of the joint chiefs admiral michael mullen we get his assessment of the deal as he knows it. >> many of us forget this is the percent empire. this is an historic empire that has a view of where they should be in the worldment and i think one of the things that is certainly there on this path is a

joining me from washington is ray takeyh, a senior fellow at the council of foreign relations. th me is gary sick, a research scholar at columbia university. i'm pleased to have both of them on this program. ray, let me begin with you. what is your assessment of what you know so far? ray: it is an arms control agreement. it is more substantial than i thought we anticipated. it conforms to the parameters of the interim agreement. iran will have a sizable enrichment capacity. the agreement will be sunset clause clause in the sense that will expire in 10 years. a greater enhanced verification regime. there are some positive aspects, but some troubling concerns that will linger. charlie: what are they? ray: the sizable enrichment capacity. the sunset clause on the expiration in which iran can have industrial-sized nuclear capacity. the facility that the president has insisted has to close remains open. the fuel, the low enriched uranium is not going to be shipped out and will likely remain in iran, perhaps at a diluted capacity. that affects your timeline in terms of breakout capaci