joining us ray wong of constellation research. en decimated, on earnings by the way, earnings short falls. you got to wonder, particularly with the big trade fight and battle over made in china 2025 being the central issue, what's going on here? >> you know there is a huge opportunity to come in and buy. they're investing for the long haul, the same way amazon was 10 years ago. they're putting in the infrastructure. they have got the numbers, and in that protectionist environment that they're in, they pretty much have the market to themselves. baidu, alibaba and tencent which you're talking about. charles: by the same token the chinese government cracking down a lot on social media sites, cracking down on media sites. there is double of had edged sword when it comes to controlled protectionism economy like that. >> i agree. i'm a free market capitalist n that market they're pretty much controlled. at whims what might happen, might be gaming one day, might be too much screen time are the other could be infected. they're all building