it's kind of a lawyer argument and he responded and at one point rayford johnson wanted to get up because he was so angry and he said this is between them and me and it went on . louis brown was the moderator and so they finally brought it toa close and there was , biting of hands, a real sense of what reached him and this discussion and then went back to their own town and john glenn said well, i don't think you have to many votes tonight and lewis said no, they're going to turn out. they're going to work and they next day tom berkley and african-american newspaper publisher helped organize people calling him, wanting to help and yes, people joined up and worked on the get out the vote campaign and it was such a, then he went back to oakland the next day. he was supposed to go somewhere else and spoke to the community and had a big rally. so it was a great moment but he understood that you have to listen and be there. and to be responsive and of course, in the primary i think he got 96 percent of the african-american vote in oakland and a huge voter turnout . so yes. that's a good observ

at one point rayford johnson wanted to get up you with anchor. he said no. this is between them and me. and it went on. willie brown was the moderator and so they finally brought it to a close, and there was some, by the end a little since they had reached him and there was discussion and then he went back to the hotel and john klin said well i don't think you got too many votes tonight. willie brown said, oh, no. they are going to turn out. i mean, they're going to work. the next day, berkeley, and african-american newspaper publisher, helped organize. people were calling him wanting to help, and yes, people joined up and work on the get out the vote campaign. and it was such a -- and he went back to oakland the next day. he was supposed to go somewhere else to a park and spoke to the community and had a big get out the vote rally. it was a great moment but he understood, you know, you have to listen and be there and be responsive. and, of course, in the primary i think he got 96% of the african-american vote in oakland. huge voter turnout. so yes, that's a