. >>> raymond buckley, mr. buckley, mr. chairman thank you for joining us. it's "hardball," i've been pretty nice with the governor so i'll be tough with you, should there be as a matter of principle, debates going toward the primaries, a year from now, as a matter of principle, debates? >> there has to be more than one candidate to have a debate and we don't know that at this point. >> jim, isn't webb running? >> he hasn't contacted anyone in new hampshire that i'm aware of. >> so you're going to do this number on me the whole night. but as a matter of principle, okay i'll play your game mr. chairman. you're my guest, so i'll play your game. if there are other candies, bernie sanders, or martin o'malley, credible candidates u.s. senators members -- governors who are in office right now. if you have credible people, a presidential rank or candidate rank as a matter of principles should there be debates, including hillary clinton? >> i'm sure the secretary would participate in debates if there were legitimate candidates running. you know nobody knows new hamp