your viewers will remember that raymond davis was the c.i.a. contractor who was arrested in january and imprisoned for shooting and killing two pakistanis who were trailing him. it turned out that he was part of an undercover c.i.a. operation that's so much like the one that i'm describing in my novel. and he ended up getting released two months later through payment of blood money which is the title of the novel and one of the themes. by that time the book was already printed. i was handing out copies to my mom and dad and other relatives, and here it was coming down in real life. the truth is, as you know, people like us look at what's happening in the world, and then we project it forward. we think if i know a and b, then i've got to know that c and d are coming. and that's kind of the way it's been with my fiction. i do spend time with c.i.a. officers and with officers from disi, the pakistani intelligence services and services of other countries. i think, based on what i'm seeing right now in real life, where the story has to go, and with

others that they thought were linked to raymond davis. but pakistan is, and they were looking at american nationals also. they are unhappy about the range of undeclared, and disclosed cia operations in pakistan culminating in the raid, but by no means limited to that. >> the bigger problem seems to be the pakistanis do not really seem to know who they want to please, whether it is america or the army or public opinion. >> i think for the first time in a long while, the pakistani army and the intelligence service are on the defensive. pakistanis are unhappy. they feel is a paramilitary is not doing an adequate job. the raids made people worried that their protectors were not sufficiently strong and protective. on its face, i have to say, is not surprising that pakistan is up set it pakistani citizens are talking to a foreign intelligence service. that is a no-no. we do not like when foreign governments, even friendly governments -- israel france -- talk to our nationals, so that is not surprising, but the breach is something much deeper th

now of course their recent raymond davis case and there may be others to come to light and between theengthen that paranoia. there's also a legal issues which deal with the fact that all the very extended period of autocratic rule by the general musharraf to structures and constraints that existed on the military and the isi in dealing with the population of pakistan being removed. so there's no legal authority for any military organization or the isi to be able to arrest people. they do not have constitutional cover for that. but this became so routine because the military and the the civil government for all in one hand. was general musharraf who victimized government and were the head of the chief of army staff as well as the president of pakistan. so it didn't matter. the government wasn't going to complain, and that legacy is creating problems even today for pakistan. where the military obligations of the abduction and mistreatment of journalists and the killing of journalists, when the public starts complaining about it creates a new legal problem and the question is when will fl

it could be i can't gradual, ite as we've seen this year punctuated by events like the raymond davisevent, or it could be much, much quicker. there are at least four scenarios which are entirely plausible which could lead to a further and dramatic and stark reduction in u.s.-pakistani bilateral relations. first is at abutte bad. there is every reason to believe that in that mountain of data we took out of that villa, we will find other information, other telephone numbers that will lead us to other targets. second is another mumbai. india and pakistan are engaged in the world's most dangerous game of russian roulette, and it's mostly played by the pakistanis. we are very lucky that we've not had a mass casualty terrorist attack in india in the last two-and-a-half years, and it is almost entirely due to luck. third, we could have another 9/11. and let me be clear what i mean by that; a mass casualty terrorist attack in the united states post-mart pakistan. we narrowly averted one only a year and a few weeks ago in new york city. had faisal shahzad been better at building a bomb, had h

. >> my question is about the raymond davis case. is there any evidence that the two people killed were with the isi? there is rumors about this? >> karen r. arturo, would you like to venture into that? >> i have seen conflicting reports. i don't know. >> i don't either. i have no idea. >> i will make it unanimous. i don't -- i've seen more speculation on both sides. the question here, who has got the microphone? >> my question is a simple and straightforward that bombay bombing case has been concluded in india and a related collection in chicago. why doesn't the intelligence community and the u.s. government shut off the pressure in pakistan government? and the third segment of the case about the bombing, that might bring out more so that we may know something inside of the isi from that. >> i'm not sure what your -- you are asking who should be taking this out? what trial? >> [inaudible] >> [inaudible] >> who would like to say anything? >> i think, you know, it is all well and good to say on a range of issues why aren't the america

that has changed in the last year, it certainly has changed under the life of the raymond davis affair. and abbottabad circa changed even more. my former colleagues are spending even more time that i am trying to answer my question, clueless, complicit. because for them even more up close and personal question. it's that advocate changes as it has, that leads in essence the uniform military which is arguing the case that we need them for the supply line and, you know, i had a drink with kayani last night. usually an okay guy. he's not as bad as he thinks. the departure of gates and the arrival of leon panetta will bring with him the new cia view i think it's also bad news for pakistan. the principle defender engagement with pakistan and state department which, of course, because it is the state department who argues in favor of engagement with everybody. that's what diplomats are supposed to do. it's track record of winning those debates, not just in this administration but every administration, is pretty slim. it may have engagement but it's engagement often with nothing inside of the

it could be, as we have seen this year, punctuated by events like the raymond davis event. or it could be much quicker. there are at least four scenarios which are highly plausible which could lead to a further dramatic and start production in u.s.-pakistan bilateral relations. there is every reason to believe that in that mountain of data we took out of that villa we will find other information, other telephone numbers, but will lead us to other targets. second it is another mumbai. india and pakistan are engaged in the world's most dangerous game of russian roulette. it is mostly played by the pakistanis. we are lucky we have not had a mass casualty attack in a number of years. it is almost entirely due to look. third is another 9/11, and mass casualty attack in the united states, postmarked pakistan. we narrowly averted when only a few weeks ago in new york city. had fis social side been better at building a bomb, had he listened to the instructions he had been given by al qaeda about how to build a bomb, he would have created a fireball in the middle of new york city, m

in davis. raymond took it and sent it to you report site. >>> and this is the downpour seen in downtown oakland this morning. it caught those without umbrellas ducking for cover . the bay area saw hail pounding down in napa this morning. serena sent this video. >>> and sent a close up picture of the miniature golf balls and gives you a good idea how strong that hail storm was today. don sanchez is live. tough day to dine outdoors. >> this is the way it is supposed to be. enjoying the ambiiance and food and drink and that sort of thing. but i think nature made it rather difficult and a challenge for life and business. pounding the pavement pumped up drops of rain and sending tourist and locals running for cover and complicating the lives of outof towners. the san francisco landmarks are shut down for repair work. rain on june 1st doesn't seem

it has certainly changed with the raymond davis of fair. my former colleagues are spending even more time than i am answering my questions. they need more up close and personal questions. if that advocates changes as it has, this is arguing the case that we need them for the supply line. i have a drink last night. he is an ok guy. the departure that he will bring with them is also bad news. the principal defender has the engagement with pakistan. they argue in favor of the engagement with everybody. that is what they are supposed to do. the track record iis pretty sli. they have nothing inside of it. my reading is that not only does it prevent this on the ground and it will get worse. all this said, at the highest level of this administration, they never had delusions' of pakistan. they understand it is a proper place. they are getting in place with it. in gear is not a solution. solutions are not very good. nger is not a solution. solutions are not very good. >> is there any strategic plan that could work in pakistan? >> i do not think it

it certainly has changed in light of the raymond davis affair and abutea bad changed it even more. my former colleagues are spending even more time than i am trying to answer my question, clueless, complicit? because for them it's an even more up close and personal question. if that advocate changes as it has, that leaves in essence the uniformed military which is arguing the case that we need them for the supply line and i had a drink with kineie last night. he is an ok guy. he is not as bad as he thinks. the departure of gates and the arrival of panetta who is going to bring with him the new c.i.a. view i think is also bad news for pakistan. that will leave us as the principle defender of engagement with pakistan. the state department. which of course because it is the state department argues in favor of engagement with everybody. that's what diplomats are supposed to do. its track record of winning those debates not just in this administration but in every administration is pretty slim. it may have engagement but is engagement wauven nothing inside of it. so my reading of the te

raymond herisse. >> responded to what i consider to be a situations involving deadly force. >> reporter: ericka daviss back on the incident. >> my mother is even an officer, you know, and i'm used to dealing with police. i've never had a view like that. of an officer in my life. i mean, i'm shaking just thinking about it. >> narces benoit and ericka davis said police took over people's cell phones and smashed them as well. a police official told us that's speculation and he's not aware of any complaints about that. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> wow. >> amazing. >> that is -- that's some scary moments. first of all to take that thing. the business about taking the sim card out, i mean -- >> put it in his mouth. >> i get they're pretty senitur >> survive that, falling in the batht bathtub. >> one of the things about the video, sometimes it's hard to tell what's happening and sometimes it's unmistakable what's happening. from the police point of view they're trying to put together what happened. >> i'm sure there they're going to be put it together. i don't understand the smashing of the cell phone. t