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. >> raymond lee would you stand up raymond a strong advocate for the reduction that we will discuss briefing in the retiree rates for retirees in that program which i think is phenomenal he deserves that recognize okay so as we go through this whole thing i'll keep it brief we look at first on page the union rates let's go on page 4 yeah. that's correct page 4 are two d m h over dental our rate passes through 2016 so no change to rates okay that's good nothing t is going up there you look at the experience for the p p we know on page 6 the ppo plan has been good we've added in the impact of the plain stabilization investment not to on and on what does this do to the rate page 11 we requesting you accept a 2.9 percent reduction in the self-ppo rates for 2016 those rates now on the retirement plan on page 8 the drum roll the rates were $90.87 fully insured rates those rates have been reduced 6 percent for two years not just one year but two years and that's really good $42.96 i'm very happy and the delta rate hmo guaranteed through 2018 and we go on to page 11 and we look at those and

tillerson jack is exactly right before rex tillerson there was lee raymond it is run by key, shrewd people who keep their eye on the ball. >> all of this came forward why don't we hire one expert to find out about that. that measure only got 21% of the shareholders -- jumping up thinking about it. how can he go forward with only that 21%. melissa: he's making the statements, i interviewed him in the past. we'll invest in renewables when that is the source of energy we're all about -- so he danced around in a way that is palatable, if solar is the thing, we'll do that. he's like forget it. i'm not doing it it doesn't make money. >> doesn't mean there shouldn't be investments like this. melissa: a rare feather in the cap for white house hopefuls. quinnipiac poll finding of the entire gop field, senators marco rubio and rand paul are the only real threats to hillary clinton. if the election were today. she would be jump 4 percentage points and jump about 10 point. they actually say rubio walker are the two to beat hillary clinton. you think rand paul is the other one? >> i do not. last week r