and i think i probably looked for that quality in this show that i'm on as somebody-- in raymond reddingtonen one is committing to a television series it's a significant commitment. i lie to myself and tell myself that, "oh, if i can't bear it, i can escape somehow." but you can't really. if it's a hit, then you're in trouble. >> rose: it's been on how many years? >> this is the fourth season that's on right now. but i think i was looking for that, looking for somebody who no matter what his life may be and as dire as things might be that he always retain an irreverence or sense of humor, and also a great appreciation for-- which i found so strangely, again, dichotomous in him is the fact that somebody who is dealing in the realm between life and death, that very narrow, narrow strip between life and death, that someone who lives so much of his life in that tiny little median strip has something an enormous appreciation for life. >> glor: "oslo" is the new play from j.t. rogers, and it's now on broadway. it charts the nine months of secret negotiations in the norwegian capital that led to t