doesn't work at this point, the perimeter intrusion detect -- detection system, it was designed by raytheon and was supposed to be installed at jfk, la guardia, la guardia and teterboro, and it's made up of censors, they've got cameras on them, monitoring devices, all the equipment ready to go, high technology. it's just failing big time. bill: why is there the delay, julie? >> essentially they didn't test the question before -- the equipment before it will -- installing it, that's the problem, because they wanted to install it first, then test t. so essentially these fences are unable to distinguish, let's say, between a person trying to climb over the fence or a bird or blowing winds, for example. so very ultra-sensitive monitoring devices that are essentially being triggered by the wrong sort of things. so rather than detecting someone illegally trying to cross the perimeter of an airport, a bird is setting it off. that's not a good thing. bill: julia banderas, thank you for that, la guardia, here in new york. eul eul -- uma: one in five detainees are getting into the terrorism business,