>> ford and reagan don't like each other. mrs. reagan and mrs. ford can't even be in the same state with each other. that is how little they liked each other. gerald ford ascends to the presidency by way of the 22nd amendment when nixon pick some after spear o agnew re-signed, taking kickbacks in maryland while the owner is maryland and still taking kickbacks as vice president of the united states. nixon needs somebody who will placate, but not threaten him, not going to cause him to look over his shoulders. gerald ford fills the bill, gerald ford's lifelong dream was to be speaker of the house and that is never going to happen. becoming vice president with a nice capstone to his career but then the smoking gun tape is revealed in july of 1974. it is in the news now. everybody -- >> elephant in the tens. >> i say smoking gun, what are you talking about? anyway, nixon is revealed ordering the cia to halt the fbi investigation into watergate and that is the end of richard nixon. gerald ford ascends to the presidency but gerald ford has no republica

[laughter] lock, reagan was an intellectual, reagan was thoughtful, reagan was an american conservative, reagan was kind, he was gentle, he was thoughtful. you know, even in his diaries he wouldn't swear. he wouldn't write -- he'd write d, dash, dash, dash instead of writing damn. but that's how genteel he was. there was a story that when he was president, you know, he had one of the first, second female secret service agents. and he kept standing aside as he was walking through a door to met the secret service agent go through. [laughter] because his mother, and he said my mother told me ladies always go first. the head of the treasury county had to sit -- department had to sit him down and say, mr. president, she is not a woman, she is a professional. you have to let her do her job. reagan was reluctant. i can't imagine anybody be ever saying anything like that about' donald trump. [laughter] reagan was a populist. he was an american conservative. he was committed to his principles, but he was also flexible.ican c he was kind, he was thoughtful. not always particularly thoughtful but,

reagan: way to minute. i am not saying it is a separate country but once the dimmer -- demarcation line was created, was in at the ho chi minh who had set that line? make this a country themselves? and, did they not create or start he at aggression with regards to south vietnam in violation of that treaty? [crosstalk] hear senator kennedy on those. sen. kennedy: i have some differences with governor reagan regarding communism at the moment. i first -- my question first. sen. kennedy: i will come around to it. communism is that system atic political the moment. i think there are major differences between the soviet union and communist china and i think that is recognized in the united states as it is recognized in europe and elsewhere around the globe. i agree i do not think the communist system wishes us well but i think it is recognized was it is different than a 20 years ago. we're going to make every effort in the united states. our government, our people make every effort to reach accommodation, particu

governor reagan: i do. because there was a referendum taken in 1954 in which 90% of the people voted, in a referendum, for diem to take the position that he took. he was subsequently endorsed in two other elections, a few years apart, in which they elected both the general assembly for his government that was preponderantly pro-diem; they re-elected him to his position. we could hardly have installed a puppet regime at a time when we had less than 700 unarmed military advisers, many of them non-commissioned officers, helping to teach the south vietnamese how to organize an army for protection against guerrillas in their own country. jordan: i'm sorry, are you saying that you approve of the activities of the diem regime? governor reagan: what activities? jordan: do you approve that they put six million in forced prison camps and that the american advisers did nothing but help them in this? governor reagan: i challenge your history again. there is absolutely no record that six million people were put in conce

ronald reagan had his own tv show on cbs. theater. ronald reagan was the host. so ronald reagan would probably have known that hold room. , pray ok go to this. you get excited about this later. 50 years as a historian and author, why? captures two important americans when they were on the rise. this is ronald reagan rising. given his speech on behalf of barry goldwater in 1964. this is probably his largest tv moment three years later after that. theelling him further on national political stage. he was already known on the national media staging and from hollywood, movies, tv, but this really propelled him to the national stage politically. and bobby kennedy, is famous as he already was being attorney general, this was a big nationally and even international stage for him as well. host: could you imagine something like this today? paul: that is a good question. i cannot imagine who would be. maybe somebody on the likes of marco and ted cruz on the republican side. maybe elizabeth warren on the democratic side. even then, it would not be the same thing because of

reagan had a higher mountain to climb. you brought up the point, democrats are saying donald trump wants to kill people, bernie sanders of people are going to die, left in the middle of the street because of this new healthcare law, now he has to go to the american people. neil: they were singing goodbye. >> here is the thing. donald trump made 20 phone calls in this. he really tried to elevate paul ryan because -- >> the most careful advice. this is the way it has to be. he thought it was tough here, fewer people but a bigger challenge, republicans or the senate to buy in. >> if you are worried whether this will get through. there is more to go. trump had to go to the mattresses to get the republicans. >> this is the point i was trying to make. he was going to do is get his own party to support this which ronald reagan didn't have to do. neil: all that barack obama had to do and the first vote with healthcare in 2009 and 2010 he had a leeway of four democrats. >> because there were objectionable things. neil: the first ti

reagan arrived.jack happened to be there and reagan came in and he was talking to kay graham and he looked over and he saw jack watson. he made a beeline over to jack. the story i heard said jack, it's so good to see you. my people tell me that if you had been chief of staff from the beginning i wouldn't be here. [laughter] a story of extreme exaggeration. [laughter] i think there's a little bit of truth to it. >> he did say it but he was also one of the most charming man that ever journal a breath. i want you to have a chance and you'll have a chance to ask some questions outside. i wanted you to have a chance if you don't already have this book and chris is going to be signing copies of it, it is as jack said, it is a fascinating story

he was able to turn rom reagan around on that as a result, reagan went for tax cuts. the rest is history. i think there would have been no reagan revolution without jim baker. host: austin, texas, independent line bob hello. caller: thank you for the call. my question is not so much about the chiefs of staff but about the presidents. what are the attributes that a president needs to have in order to effectively use his chiefs of staff? thank you. guest: i lost the ear piece. host: chris whipple from gate -- gatekeepers talking about his book. talking about the role of chiefs of staff. we're -- if you want to talk to him and ask him questions about it, you can continue to do so. for democrats 202-748-8000, 202-748-8001 for republicans. independents 202-748-8002. if you go to washington journal website. particularly the c-span.org website, you can go to the video live many of the people that you'll hear about in this segment, former chiefs of staff and the roles they served, they are available in interviews they've done. press conferences that they may have participated

to every day families and reagan did that very well. so can he connect those back to show them how the policies will benefit them that is beneficial to families then they will be more supportive. >> as the republican party in terms of control we seem to be squandering more than others so the democratic party before the panel began i was in los angeles there is a protest going on a bitterly could not get out of my house. the use said the heat on the democratic side? how long does that last republicans are not fired up protesting. >> eight think most americans are exhausted by the end of 2016 with kansas congressional district the republican candidate still one despite all the resistance 80,000 voters to 55 that was even a greater percentage from republicans but the young documentary filmmaker favor of the most awkward interviews i have ever seen the he was going to ask if he is going to marry the girl from his girlfriend of 12 years. but when the women's march happened was in dc it was significant and 2 million people strong. last weeken

and i'm gonna give it a name." >> he invented the reagan doctrine, not reagan, and now everyone has gotdoctrine. >> [ chuckles ] yeah. >> charles has made it mandatory to come up with a doctrine for every president. >> but even after reagan's 49-state landslide, krauthammer was still not sure what to make of reagan the man, who he met at the white house in 1986. >> he invited me to lunch. i tried to engage him, like, on the contras. "what are you gonna do?" and all of a sudden, what i'm hearing from him is this story about how when he and nancy were in the guest house of president marcos of the philippines, there was a giant spider on the ceiling, and the question was how to get him off without scaring nancy. and i'm thinking, "i don't get it. this is the most successful president in my lifetime. he seems to be out to lunch. what's going on?" >> he says it was only later that he realized what eluded him about reagan. >> he had no need ever to show how smart he was. he knew exactly what i was asking. he didn't want to talk about it. and if you thought he was a dunce, he didn't care, 'cau

nancy reagan and others on it. he changed course and decided to pursue tax cuts instead. >> tax reform. >> the rest is history. >> another wonderful example, in the book, is not of something that jim did, because he left and was secretary of treasury, but chris says in his book, and i happen to share the opinion, that if jim baker had been reagan's chief of staff when the whole iran-contra episode began percolating, it never would have happened. it would not have happened. on jim's watch. >> this was -- i think probably the most disastrous job swap in american political history. when jim baker was burned out, after four years plus, and -- most chief of staffs last a year or so. >> yeah. the average tenure is less than two years, and anyway, baker was burned out. he walks into secretary don -- treasury secretary don diggan's office and regan says why don't we just swap jobs. and baker thought about and it said, thought about it for a day or two and said, why don't we do that. this is a rare case where nancy reagan's

nancy reagan was famously the personnel director. michael devery, dep the chief -- deputy chief was packly family. baker was savvy enough for form alliances with nancy and mike deaver and then when the hard right came after him he was fine, able to deal with it. so it's not as though this is mission impossible in the trump white house necessarily. it might be. it might be. but there aren't a lot of jim bakers or leon panettas or jack watson's around who can walk into a white house like that and make it work. >> as i say, no matter how good, how strong, how capable, how skillful, the person is who is the white house chief of staff, all of that goes for naught basically if the president does not empower the person to do the job. if the president is not going to listen, is going to change his mind every time someone knew comes into the room and makes a new argument, if there's not as chris was saying, not proper vetting going on all the time, that's one of the most important roles of the chief of staff. vet everything before it gets to

reagan did that really want. i think a lot of great things are happening in washington, d.c., the candy connect those dots have to homes and families and moms and kids and show them how those policies will benefit? scdc the things that he is doing and happening in washington, d.c., is also beneficial to you as a family, as an individual, then you will be more supportive. >> so as a republican party, we have almost an embarrassment of riches right now in terms of control. that we seem to be squandering to some degree with much infighting between the freedom caucus and other things. what would you, the democratic party seems fired up. we were just talking before this panel began, i was in downtown l.a. there are protests going on now. i literally couldn't get out of the house because they were blocking my driveway. hugh, you were saying the heat on the democratic side is starting to simmer down. how long do you think that lasts, and she would be worried as republicans if republicans are not fired up protesting in t

bush, president ronald reagan. but nancy reagan is constantly putting barbara in her place, constantly disrespectful, constantly disrespectful to both bushes, that particularly barbara. there is a story where barbara shows up at the white house in a similar colored dress to nancy reagan, and nancy makes it clear the event is not going to start until she changes. and they are fellow republicans. there is a similar feud between julia dent grant and mary todd lincoln. mary todd lincoln, they are going to get in a boat to go into richmond and lord it over the defeated south. julia gets in the boat and sits down in his seat. mary todd lincoln gets in, and she says, you are sitting in my seat. get up. julia got up. she never forgot this. ad then when they had carriage tour around washington to see the lights, to celebrate invites her mary husband, ulysses s. grant, to join her in the carriage and just leaves julia sitting there. julia did not forget. when they were invited to the theater the evening that lincoln was kill

reagan were there. we were having a nice conversation. there was four inches of armored glass on the window -- we had a great conversation. the president was hooked up to many of the machines, tubes and so forth to go in different places, flash red and green and make noises that attract children. they were a tracking my two children at that time. my wife was more nervous than i was, of that worried that my kids might finish the job. [laughter] >> so we were nervous. the president of the united states did not know tim mccarthy at that time. there were three shifts that rotate, but we had a wonderful conversation. together, sometimes dinner, in fact we did later on, but we were just about the door and was time to go and we were just about the door ready to head for home, which we were anxious to get to come and he stopped and said, wait a minute now. reagan,was mccarthy, the disc i have against the irish? [laughter] a discussion a discussion on the assassination of president ronald reagan. called forhe once the removal of pluto as a planet,

governor reagan, do you think this is desirable? >> the only objection that i have had with some of the building bridges that have been attempted for this country is very frankly we haven't been hard nosed enough in getting -- when i say concessions i don't mean they have to buy their way. but in getting concessions that would also help build the bridge from the other end. for example, i think when we signed the treaty with the soviet union i think there were things that we could have asked in return. i think it would have been admirable if the berlin wall should disappear i think this would be a step towards peace and towards self-determination for all people if it were. so i think what you are bringing up here and this ties in with something that bill bradley said and is very significant. among people of good will in the world today there is too much of a tendency to argue challenging or suspecting the other fellow's motive when perhaps what we are challenging is only the method suggested. let's start with the premise that all peo

president reagan wanted right next to him, at least mrs. reagan did. president carter and president bush, too. that will always be there. times, it is a higher level. never been a change but i'm with the associated press and security for the associated press so i always get the questions because to the layperson or press people, they say i cannot believe the president is that express. i am confident and i think tim is, too, as well as former agents, when i see that it tells perimeter her security -- inner perimeter security has expanded. they are not going to -- if there was a need for those agents to be shoulder to shoulder than that with time he that they have a huge concern about that perimeter security, ok? the fact they are able to loosen up, give more lot of sight, tells me they have enhanced those measures in that inner, middle, and outer perimeter. >> and there is more than one perimeter. i can assure you the presidential protective division is the last line of defense between the security threat and the president. but, there are other paramete

and reagan was an interesting case because reagan got his start in politics and in television back inhe 1950s. the same advertising agency, dbdo, that had controlled many of ike's political appearances, that got ronald reagan to move from being a film actor to being a television host, and then a spokesman for conservative causes. so we can actually trace reagan back to the sort of same promotional team that had played such an important role in eisenhower. the age of mass media, an outage of television -- first radio and then television and now cable television and social media -- celebrity has become for good or for bad a pretty important ingredient in how people evaluate presidential candidates. it's not that they're looking for somebody who is a star. it's not like they're looking for somebody who has their chops in entertainment. but they are looking for people who have a certain star quality, people who look good on television, who they feel they can live with seeing on their tv screens and on their newspapers for the next four years. so, the influence of celebrity is more powerfu

well, ronald reagan was elected and dramatically changed policy. and what happened?the performance of the american economy changed dramatically. reagan cut marginal tax rates dramatically. i'm being dramatic but these were dramatic times. he cut nondefense spending and entitlement spending, and he lifted regulatory burden. when that program was in effect, the economy in the last six years that reagan administration grew by 4.6%. and in four of those six years, federal revenues grew by over 10% per year. now, this comparison is important because the question we're faced with now is are we in a secular stagnation or is this a policy-induced stagnation? my believe is, and i think an objective reading of the policies of the postwar period and the performance of the economy in the postwar period is that policy makes a difference. american exceptionalism is based on freedom and market efficiency. and when government policy reinforces those things, the economy grows and has no equal on earth. when government policy stifles those things, the growth of the economy is stunted.

it was ronald reagan -- i wouldn't have written that speech for anyone other than ronned reagan.eech writers are always trying to give ronald reagan back to his speech. we knew his mind, what he would respond to and i wouldn't have written that for anybody else and nobody else would have overruled the foreign policy apparatus to delivering that speech. like-wise the trump administration, i don't know the speech writers there, i know steven miller. it's clear they're not trying to invent donald trump. they're trying to take the policies, they understand the principles he believes in, the speaking style that he has so well-- well formed. they're not trying to invent a voice. they're not trying to invent policies. they're writing material at that comports with donald trump himself. david: stay with us. we have another gentleman who knows how the white house operates and speeches are delivered and chosen by the president, mr. pat buchanan now joining us on the phone. pat, i'm sure you saw the drive them out speech by president trump when he was in saudi arabia. i'm wondering, do you

as president reagan's first post-white house chief of staff. i know of no other person who has spent more time and effort working on behalf of ronald and nancy reagan over the years than fred ryan. fred would never brag about that fact but it is a fact so i will brag for him. ladies and gentlemen, if you would, please join me in welcoming to the stage, mr. fred ryan. [applause] >> thank you, john. for a very kind introduction and welcome, everyone. well our special guest tonight has been to the reagan presidential library several times. the first as owner of a major league baseball team. then as governor of texas. he was back as a candidate for president of the united states. was back as president of the united states to dedicate air force one here at the reagan library. has been here as a former president of the united states and is the author of a popular book, decision point. tonight he is back as an accomplished painter. we can only wonder what he will be on the next visit to the reagan library. [laughter]. as americans we closely observe w

i'm opposed to the policies around ronald reagan if you put yourself in reagan light i can't put youext to king because we know reagan's not there. great politician from the republican an side, absolutely we got the king holiday thanks to him. can i follow that to the highest office of the land, i can't. is he in my house next to black jesus, yeah. okay. >> how are you navigating this trumpian moment given we all know where you stood with bernie sanders. >> how have progressive black people been dealing with it most our lives we've been making concessions and dealing with devils most our lives. that's how we characterize nixon, reagan, how you have to characterize nixon in particular but lyndon johnson. we've dealt with this character before. if you have been in the south you dealt with politicians he's pointing, sessions didn't just pop up, newt gingrich has been in georgia most of my life. so for me when you talk about these people further up the east coast it becomes boogie man but if you are from the southeast you know these people, you know their moves, which i think makes it ea

all southbound lanes closed reagan national detour at reagan national getting vehicles involved on a tow truck. i'll let you know when they reopened. southbound traffic is moving, let's switch for a look at maps. aside from that crash dealing with good news in charles country. tobacco road. wednesday morning commute construction 395 on the southbound side. we'll take a look there next. questions erin fox d. crption on twitter, back to you wisdom and maureen. >> in the news this morning more the big stories fallout from president trump decision to fire fbi director james comey. >> while the white house stands by its decision democrats and republicans are questioning time being of firing. annie yu is outside. annie. >> good morning to you power even and wisdom. when the news came down it shocked and surprised many in washington from both side of the aisle. of course, this say decision that does not come without controversy. as you mentioned white house is defending president decision to fire james comey and they're also saying that president trump showed no reluck nans firing comey say

ronald reagan did that brilliantly. and his form of politics and diplomacy was very personal and very relationship based. we saw that during the post presidency years when i worked for him when there was a parade of world leaders all over the globe to visit with him in his office in century city. they didn't have to do that for protocol or diplomatic reasons, they wanted to, they liked him. they had a relationship, so how much more can be accomplished politically if we focus on the personal aspect and the relationship? and i think that's fantastic what president trump is doing this week to meet with people. trish: peggy grande, thank you very much. just to update our viewers, jared kushner is now allegedly part of the focus of this investigation, though we have heard from kushner's office he has not been, has not been approached by members of the fbi, et cetera. it's unclear. you know, the problem with this story, and i keep saying this, is there is so much innuendo out there. we don't really know what's going on? perha

the reagan administration has suggested that they want more. the soviet union has said, ok.et's negotiate further provisions. soviet union, the badly wants a comprehensive test ban. >> if we had a simultaneous test-ban and the soviets did resume testing, we could resume immediately ourselves. in the meantime, we would have gained the goodwill of so many countries throughout the world. so i don't see that we have anything to lose by a comprehensive test ban, and everything to gain. have -- isn't enough enough? more and more dangerous nuclear weapons of both sides makes us less secure. do we need a weapons system that will bypass all human intelligence? putting decisions in the hands of computers makes accidents even more possible under crisis conditions through testing and deploying new weapons is not the answer. leaders representing six nations, from five continents, appealed to president reagan and sewed -- soviet leader gorbachev to refrain from further nuclear testing. they offered to assist in monitoring compliance for the test ban. are showing people the same concern he

tom: president reagan was a friendly guy. mr. baker, if you isolate the president and he or she would live in a bubble, do they lose some contact with the very people they lead? analysiscret service looking back on the lone gunmen, from the fbi point of view, that day, we did not initially see it that way. the reality was that, that particular month, 60 days into the reagan administration, the country was in a high state of tension. solidarity in poland, the russians were threatening. russiansy before, the moved in their ballistic fleet within a line to our coast, they had never been so close before. we did not know that at the time but we knew there was this tension. hours, werst several do not know what we had. pleaded not know if somebody else would be attacked, we handled it as a crisis and that there could be other attacks. later in the day, as information became available and the investigation started to unwind, we realized we had this mentally deranged young man. for the first couple of hours, it was tense. that is how it

reagan and the respect they had for each other. mother teresa came to visit the office and this little tiny woman he recognized as being a giant on the world stage, had amazing respect for her, being the first president to put a woman on the supreme court with the appointment of sandra day o'connor, very proud of. he respected their role, many years ago that wasn't one of our big issues but it was important to him to show respect. as a young woman working for him i felt his utmost respect toward me and his appreciation for the value that i have. he was a man of incredible patriotism and that is something you would expect from a president but having been behind the scenes with him that was not something he did when the cameras were rolling. this man was patriotic to the core. how many times do you think he heard the star-spangled banner, the national anthem, or any of these other songs being played. we have guests come to the office, they would perform for him and thing for him or play music for him, you can imagine if you're playin

. >> "a step away from war" is a 28 minute film encouraging the reagan administration to seek a nuclear test ban treaty. hosted by paul newman, it includes interviews with scientists, policymakers, scholars, and activist. the program details the history of nuclear testing and treaties, including the 1963 partial testing treaty. 10 years after the film was released in 1996, united nations adopted a comprehensive nuclear test ban treaty. that treaty has not yet been ratified by all of the required states. only north korea, pakistan and india have tested nuclear weapons sense -- since 1996. ♪ [gong] ♪ ♪ [gong] ♪ ♪ [gong] ♪ >> in just over 200 years we have become the greatest nation in the world. with the most powerful economic, political, and humanitarian force in history. through ingenuity, hard work, and common sense, we have forged a strength and spirit that has advanced the cause of human-kind. the electric light bulb to the silicon chip to the first man on the moon and beyond, the unit -- united states has led the way. we captured the energy of the sun and wind. we are exploring the

exactly what reagan would be doing and did do.ttendants suing frontier airlines for dissemination saying they failed to accommodate breast-feeding employees, they were forced to take excessive unpaid leave through a policy that forbids workers from pumping on duty. several pilots filed a similar lawsuit last year. they comply with local and federal law and make good faith efforts to assist breast-feeding employees. for get checked bag fees, one airline is charging parents to bring their baby on board. jet star and australian budget airline launching a $30 fee for adults to carry infants and put them on their lap. that bumps up $50. the airline says the fee will keep fares low for all customers. they realize how in unpopular that would be. steve ducey, we are pretty busy but not trying to run in airline. >> coming up on "fox and friends," we will have scott pruitt with us, so much news in washington dc about donald trump, not hearing much about what the administration is doing, find out what they are doing to keep our air cleaner a

as he grew older, he saw the calming of ronald reagan -- coming of ronald reagan in the early 1980's. and earl, the squire, passed away in 1985. travel to our staff redding, california to learn about its rich history. learn more about redding and our other stops at www.c-span.org/ck iteistour. this weekend on american history tv, tonight on lectures in history. a college professor on the people and ideas that shaped the 1776 pennsylvania constitution. >> the continental congress, right, the representatives from all the colonies had instructed after the july for the declaration, instructed all of , tocolonies, now states form new governments. announcer: sunday at 4:30, special agents reflect on protecting president reagan following the 1981 assassination attempt. >> i immediately went to my weapon because i recognize the shots as going off. only had seconds to determine where the shots were coming from. you saw the smoke from the weapon to individuals moving toward the potential assailant. announcer: at 8:00 on the presidency, his story and on the relationship between thomas jefferson

much of the greatness that you see here at the reagan library again also at our new institute offices in washington d.c. were made possible through their generosity. i just wanted to point them out. that was jerry krol and his wife roslyn. [applause] i don't know that a book has ever been written that included with it instructions or an operators manual on how to best introduce the author. i wish there was but come to think of it it's not a bad idea because to introduce her simply following the instructions say like you buy a bike for your child on christmas eve. all the instructions would fit right into place and when you are finished there's not a single extra nut or bolt on the floor for the bike or praise and flattery for the author. now, the dr. rices most recent best-selling work, part one of the operators manual, consider yourself extremely fortunate it would say. dr. rice is one of the most respected and admired women in the world with a public service record second to none. the fact that she is sitting with you prepared to discuss her newest book is like winning the power bal

for president reagan his first big international trip was two years into his first term. do you think this president will grow into the role about being the leader here? there could be tense conversations with some of these leaders once they leave this public ceremony today. >> i hope he will. because we all want president trump to succeed. i think what the europeans i've just come from europe. they are oef a little puzzled. when they hear secretary tillerson and mattis in europe. there is clarity and forcefulness in the united states opposing russia and they're not hearing that from president trump. so there is a gap between the president and his cabinet officers and what the europeans are hearing. i think president trump needs to speak more like his secretary of state and secretary of defense. >> shannon: he has been critical because of the way they have handled their migrant crisis and having the free flow of borders. it seems as if his cabinet members have had part of the conversation, he has had the other part of the conversation that has been very critical. >> and t

when ronald reagan said mr. gorbachev, tear down that wall, i don't know if he really thought it was going to happen. authoritarian regimes are brittle. and putin is right now in a position to rule because there is no organized opposition to him and he's making sure of th that. but two weeks ago people flooded into the streets of moscow to protest corruption. still, online bloggers are protesting government action. so there is something slightly alive underneath. another thing is the russian people are different than they were in the soviet union. when i first went to moscow as a graduate student in 1979, russians looked at their feet. they never looked at you. now they travel and send their kid to study abroad. they study them even middle-class, this boy all day l their children at toys "r" us. somewhere along here, someone might emerge to be a focal point for that constituency. before we get too carried away, the other potential opposition could come from the hard right because there is an even more ultranatio

the right nomics but they don't call it reagan nom innings -- reaganomics once it starts to work. host: phone lines again, democrats, 202-748-8000. and republicans, 202-748-8001 and independents, 202-748-8002. joe is in lewis, colorado, republican. good morning. caller: yeah, yes. i'm very disappointed because for seven years, paul ryan told us that we had a plan. now we wasted seven years waiting to do this and my question is which has cost us more? seven years of outright lies by paul ryan? or obamacare as you call it? because all of this partnership, we -- partisanship, we have paid. we don't like it. if you were my son, i would ask you how did your mind get so skewed that you think i would believe these lies you're saying right now about all this stuff staying in place? host: so joe, what did you think about the plan that eventually came together in the legislation that was the american health care act? caller: it's an insult to our intelligence. if they think we're that ignorant to believe those lies. please, we need to start calling liars a liar and get on with progress beca

i don't think it's a competition between reagan and trump to be honest with you. both did the right things. reagan, tell, look at numbers, see what happened. we dropped the corporate rate from 46% to 34%. took highest personal income tax rate down to 28%. you can see the boom that occurred, lasted all the way through clinton. if trump does what he is saying, if we get this through, legislation, i think results will just be the same. you have to remember, neil, i'm bitter at forecasting the past than i am the future. it is the past that gives us guidance for forecasts in the future and i think the future looks much brighter with this proposal than it does without. neil: i'm not trying to disparage this attempt, given realities of the day, budget reconciliation process, reading numbers, even though republicans can run the table they would need something bigger than what they have got. >> they would. neil: that doesn't appear to be happening. maya, you heard what a lot of people are saying, art included here, those who obsess over costs ie, you, forget that the reven

even bigger than that of ronald reagan.charles: president trump declaring his tax cuts will be even bigger than ronald reagan. but can it be done, especially in this environment? amy, you were there, you saw it go down. you talked about how difficult the process itself was. the country could use an historic tax cut at this time. atred youetty partisan. see today. donald trump is lucky he has both houses of congress, but he has to -- the quirky senate rules having to do with reconciliation. there are limitations on what he can do. i think -- if he put together a series of doubles and triples, instead of trying to say look i'm going to hit the grand slam hit of all hits, i think he will be successful in fiscal policy. but -- charles: i agree with you. that's a great point. the idea particularly with the gop that he's working with, you will have to go in there and nuance he single thing. it obviously will take a serious degree of hand holding he single time. i don't know that you can do all the major issues at once. we are get

and a young felon into reagan. now, this is -- a young man named reagan. now this is -- buckley said if we nominate reagan and the nominate humphrey and this becomes a fight with his with a conservative. they're going to say it was the movement. let's all do this for another day. he writes a series of signals to various delegates and conservative movement and he gets criticism for this. that reagan would be better for another time. it split the board of national review. it was one of 100 times that bill threatened to quit. bill was very proud to say he opposed nixon one way or the other every time he ran for public office. he was the one pushing bill not to -- so bill was the publisher of national review and a princeton alumni. >> yes. and he does nixon two favors in 1968. for the relevant period one as he makes nixon respectable to other conservatives. buckley is supporting nixon camping is modern. he can't be that bad a guy. and second, you have this fellow named george wallace. the segregationist governor of alabama running the third party. getting vote