reagan?there were so many, it's hard to choose and part of it is because they had so many friends in the picture business that i didn't think she would want to pick one. she said you don't have anything at your favorite? how about donovan's brain or night into morning which were two in which she had starred. she laughed and said no. i said really, no favorite movie? she saidwell, any that ronnie was in and i said okay, what would that be? she said well, i guess it would have been held back . and it's kind of a predictable answer. but i actually think that's true. and they had fun recollections of making because she recalled that in the scenes where she bade him, her character was a nurse and his was a naval officer and there was a she seen she was shooting and she was supposed to bid him farewell and she couldn't do it without crying which was not part of the script . she would do the scene and start to cry. cut, then she started to giggle and then they do the scene, same thing over and over

it came down to reagan not his posters or consultants but reagan himself making the presentation as to why his view of america in the future in the world was more vital in important and compelling than carter's was. >> let's talk reagan. he's in office and he spent four years and medicates to the american people about wanting to move the country in a positive direction and you saw the positive theme and he spent a lot of time and energy as president and trying to get to is the role of the president isn't just press conferences and glamour. but let's take it through a daily activity of a president in obviously you know reagan really well because i want to get to where reagan used to hang out a lot done at camp david but the issue of having the weight of the world on your shoulder being the most powerful man in the world and what kind of pool that takes and how he lived his life as president. >> reagan was once asked about aging in office and it depends on how you do the job. carter had aged visibly and we all remember that and he still only was in his 50s when he was defeated in 1980 bu

governor reagan: yes. again, i will say that a great many people are going to be deluded into believing that this could result in some immediate answer to their problems. now again, you get back to dissent and what is needed in this country. there are a great many voices that have been heard. one of them was the late senator robert kennedy's. saying virtually the same thing i have been saying in california. as a matter of fact, in california, he was advocating what we're doing in california. a program to provide jobs to the poor, to the minority element. here in other words, was a place proper leaders of the poor, should be telling them, support those people today who are advocating a change in the program. >> even before the horror, robert kennedy also spoke for tougher gun-control laws. you have said that we probably have the best laws in california right now. governor reagan: we do. we do. >> governor, i regret that our time is up. announcer: today on "face the nation," governor ronald reagan was interv

reagan: yes. a great many people are going to be deluded into believing this could result in some immediate answer to their problems. and whatack to dissent is needed in this country. a great many voices have been heard. one of them was the late robert kennedys saying virtually the same thing i've been saying in california. in california, he was advocating california.oing in a program to provide jobs to the poor, to the monogamy -- minority element. here was a place, proper leaders of the poor should be telling them to support those people today who are advocating a change in the programs that are a failure. ,> even before the horror robert kennedy also spoke for comfort and control laws. you said will probably have the best laws in california in the nation now. mr. reagan: we do. up.r regret our time is thank you very much president -- mr. reagan for being here on face the nation. >> today on face the nation, governor ronald reagan of california was interviewed by a cbs correspondent, from the an

even when reagan was president the conservative movement sometimes broke with reagan over tax policyin soviet policy and missile policy and things like that. i would say the republican party, yes, because their public party is the party of whoever the nominee is and adopts positions of whoever the nominee is in the public party was richard nixon's party and it was george bush's party and donald trump or dwight eisenhower's party so the party is donald trump's party today. i say conserve the moment is i wouldn't say yes, sir no. it's up for grabs right now is whether or not conservatism is going to follow tropism all the way down or not. >> (202)748-8204 and (202)748-8201 if you want to call anticipate in our conversation with craig shirley. >> guest: you don't register by parties in virginia so i'm a independent. >> host: do you consider yourself a reagan republican. >> guest: yes one is reaganism still alive? >> guest: i think so. reagan's evolving philosophy is american conservatism at its roots in the enlightenment and the belief in the rights and dignity and freedom of the indivi

look, on reagan, reagan rising and a new authorized he biography of newt gingrich. citizen newt, the make offering a reagan conservative. please joan my in welcoming our panelists. [applause] >> i want to start with asking each of the authors to share with us why they wrote the book they wrote, and the impact they hoped it would have. i'm going to start with kathy. >> thank you so much, caroltime it's a joy to be with you all. thank you for inviting me. i am a scholar of public opinion, which means often time his conversations that i have are about why are people getting things wrong. people ask in why are make make thing choices they are, what is wrong with them? i don't like that question because in my mind if you take it to an stream, we're saying ware not kindable of having a democracy, saying the people we're living with are not capable of make the choices that make a democracy possible. instead of asking what what of people goaling it wrong, i ask how are people understanding their world? the book i wrote is focuses on wisconsin but it's a brad broader story o

his two most recent books are about newt gingrich and ron reagan -- ronald reagan. craig shirley, is there anything different in the conversation the republican party is having about itself today than when reagan was president or george w. bush was president? >> guest: interesting. i think it was more intellectual then. there was really great debates in the 1970s and 1980s about what american conservatives stood for and what the republican party stood for. they seem to be more personality-driven today and less about, you know, what is our policy on taxation, what is our policy vis-a-vis the soviet union. do we support the mx missile, do we oppose the mx missile? abortion was only beginning to coalesce with a consistent republican or conservative position on it. so t the debates of the '70s and '80s were great intellectual debates which, ironically, came 200 years after the great debate of the founding of this country. this is said to remain a british colonies, or do we reject the elitism of london and strike out op our own as a new -- on our own as a new, independen

so, reagan, ronald reagan wins the republican nomination in 1980. the convention that year is in detroit. the first campaign stop he makes, is in neshoba county at the fair. you read the speech, right? you read the speech in preparation for class today. you know that in that speech, that he gave, he talked about that he is a supporter of states rights. and, states rights, we know historically what states rights was about. we know it because, it goes back to the secession itself, right? that when alexander stephens said, we are seceding because we want to preserve the cornerstone of white supremacy. jeff davis is saying, i don't know about that. let's just talk about states rights. that's a better way to talk about it. it's impolitic to talk about white supremacy in 1860. ended his impolitic to talk about the recent -- -- >> that is the language of the segregationists. to talk about states rights. and so, reagan goes in, and reporters who were following him, this was not his standard stump speech. this was a speech that was given for this crowd. one

rep for reagan. i learned that yesterday in an article that was published. but the local officials in mississippi who were communicating with national officials in the gop -- and this was months before reagan had ever won the nomination -- they didn't know who was going to win the nomination, right? but the national office was saying where should our candidate come if they're going to campaign in mississippi? and the local official said you have to come to nashoba county, it's our biggest political event and that's where our candidate can attract the quote/unquote george wallace-inclined voters. the george wallace-inclined voters. that was the actual phrase. and you'll see in op-eds, paul krugman writing in the "new york times" talking about southern strategy will quote this, george wallace inclined voters. he never footnotes me but i'm the one who found it, i'm telling you. let it be known. so george wallace-inclined voters. what does a republican campaign official mean by "george wallace-inclined v

reagan. >> well, i carefully planned the whole thing. [laughing] not. i was working at the time. my boss, bob gray, very well known in the republican circles and you taken a leave and gone over to the campaign as the communications director. he called me one day, mid december, and he said i need your resume. i need it right away. there's a white has a job that i think you qualify for. and i just want to put your name in. and i thought, i didn't work on the campaign. i actually did robo calling for john connolly. a member, he got one delegate? [laughing] >> because of your calls. >> at any rate, so i sent him the resume and he called them back. he said the epler house at 6:00. so -- be at blair house. i scrambled to get epler house and starting to figure out it's got to be nancy reagan. i didn't think it was ronald reagan because he a renamed jim brady. so i got there and i was so nervous that i had to sit on the hands like this because they were like shaking. i mean, i never met a first lady

the gray kind of political innovation of ronald reagan, and reagan has -- one of the things about reagan's political careers he had this remarkable ability to take political ideas when said in a southern accent by george wallace or strom thurmond sound like blatant prejudicial policies but in his very humorous kind of off hand way sell the nation on conservatism, right. and one of the distinctions is that it doesn't make, you know, the other the enemy, it makes big government the enemy. the government is the problem, right? government is -- the problem with welfare is the way it's designed to trap the poor people within the nets. so that was part of the rhetorical strategy and rhetorical differentiation that was very important in thinking about how a conservative republican like reagan succeeds. that's a great distinction. any other questions? okay. thank you so much. we'll see you on monday. [ applause ] >>> tonight it's american history tv in primetime on the life and legacy of national review founder william f. buckley jr. how he helped shape modern conservatism with national review sen

what is the -- >> real nancy reagan?> that what was interesting to me -- was that or for a woman who really had never had a staff until the white house. she was first thing she said to me was i will always take your calls well for a press secretary that's like bold. you know, because that means that press knows they can get an answer if they call me. that i will have talked to her and i will be tiebl tell them what they need and that's, that was important over a period of time. but she was always true to her word and there were days write might have called her ten time when is something was breaking. but she said i just don't want to be surprised but i want to talk about it before you respond if it is something you don't quite know how i feel. and -- she she said from now on i always call her mrs. reagan i said from now on i want you to call me nancy and she started well at 1998, my husband died. had a heart attack and dropped dead. and her father had told her that grieving people need to cry. and you should help your fr

a reagan conservative. [applause] i will start asking the authors and the impact they hope it would have. >> it is a joy to be with you all. i am a scholar of public opinion with the conversations that i have liar people getting things wrong or making the choices that they are? in my mind if you take that to the extreme we are not capable to have that democracy so instead of asking what are they getting wrong how are they understanding their world? so the book is focused on wisconsin but people in rural small towns research was in wisconsin and to listen to people so i wrote the book so look at what the small places in my state to understand the feeling that many people have about not being respected and overlooked how that comes from real experience hoping for something better i hope the impact it would have to understand this concern of feeling like you deserve more wanting better for yourself people would understand not from people deserved to be treated this so i want to have a broader understanding. >>

quick surely's two most recent books are citizen new to in the making of a reagan conservativer and reaganising, the decisive years. what was ronald reagan doing in those years when he lost the first presidential nomination? >> guest: he never stopped giving. it is interesting is i that he gave the last speech at the kansas city convention in 1976 and he just lost the nomination of gerald ford by a scant 70 delegate votes out of [inaudible] and he is supposed to be better and angry and deep down he was but he gives a remarkable off-the-cuff speech live on national television for 70000 cheering republicans and give this masterful address and a woman in the crowd exclaims to reagan supporter says and she's a fourth quarter and says oh my god, we've operated the wrong man. reagan is out on the hustle that ball campaigning for republican candidates in the fall of 76. every place he goes cabdrivers, maids, please officers, airport attendance and every place he goes people said to her, run one more time into it one more time. i'm convinced that the reaction to his impromptu speech in kansas city

ro ro ranld reagan. -- and it ends in 2008. obama in 2008 is the first president in 40 years who has not been a candidate from the sun belt. and so -- i mean, it's not a humg deal but interesting that shows how the flow and the migration of population and capital from the north and the midwest to the south and the southwest is transforming american politics in the last decades of the 20th century, okay? and so with that, you have the potential for a young hard working, young hard working man like george h.w. bush to come to texas and carve out his political career. and that's what he does. a lot of the white collar education educational professionals comes and starting businesses and sees how the state legislatures and local politics are dominated by these old boys, country old boy network existing in the democratic party. the democratic party in the south are dominated by the county courthouse networks oftentimes corrupt. and you have local political boss who dole out out pay tra naj and a lot of them come in and embrace the p

reagan felt the same thing.he thought the media were largely liberal and not in favor for what i stand for, but he did not care. and he pretty much ignored it. i covered reagan and his campaign and the white house. and he never seemed to pay much attention to us. he was always cordial and very friendly if you are meeting him and shaking his hand, but he just did not worry about it. and a little bit of that would have gone a long way for poor dick nixon. host: you pointed out that you worked for the wall street journal and congressional quarterly, and side note, one another conversation for another time, your latest book on president mckinley, title architect of the american century. on c-span3's american history tv, we are taking your questions and your comments, your vote, i should say, at htv at c-span3. the question is which party changed the most since 1968? the vote now with more than 24,000 casting their votes. the majority saying the democrats changed the most. 56%. republicans at 44%. we go to tony in he

nixon's forces were somewhat concerned that reagan could be a credible -- beforexon had reagan even announcedt the convention -- nixon had wrapped up the endorsements from a very goldwater -- barry goldwater. many of the southern conservatives that reagan would have needed. it was ultimately -- there was not much of a credible threat to richard nixon. >> just to go back to the , paying off in 1968 during the primary process. >> there is a reality in american politics that things happen that are perceived as impossible, and perceivable. soon as they do happen, they become commonplace. the election of donald trump, abraham lincoln. when he dismissed reagan and tried to make light of him. i am really interested in aviation. reagan won the election by almost a million votes. and immediately, he was a major figure in american politics. in 60, he was the stuff candidate. he let his size run him and these of various states. in a new up 11% hampshire, 22% in nebraska. base going into the convention and the only way as we just heard -- the only way he could possibly get the nomination is deny the firs

was governor reagan on the list? guest: governor reagan was not on the list. i believe he had established himself as two formidable of a politician. he wasn't sure he could control someone who demanded that much support. nixon went into the convention and a somewhat tenuous situation. my recollection is that it took six under six to seven votes for the nomination. he had 26 more than that. that is not a position of strength. reagan came in and at the convention, as soon as he picked up his candidacy, he picked up 19 votes. nixon had to go to strom thurmond. strom thurmond knew that nixon needed him desperately. nixon knew that he needed strom thurmond desperately. and strom thurmond knew that nix on knew. the two main questions were guidelines on racial integration. nixon favored guidelines. they get sent the question of timetables, photos, and -- and all of quotas, that which was messy at the time. opposed tong, nixon school busing. he finessed the first, assurance on the second, and absolute assurance on the third, which was the vice president. d.c. john in

how did you get to know ronald reagan and when did you get to begin serving ronald reagan? >> well, it all began right after he was elected as governor of california in 1966. at that time, i was in the district attorney's office in alameda county. that's the county in california that has both oakland and berkeley. both rather significant cities for various reasons, and i enjoyed my work there, i enjoyed working with the police. i enjoyed trying criminal cases, and i'm going to say reasonably successful, so i was not looking for a job. but one day out of the blue, i got a call, would i come up and meet the new governor or the governor-elect at that time? december of 1966. i guess i really didn't learn until much later how he had gotten my name, but actually, when i was in the district attorney's office, our boss, the district attorney of alameda county was the chairman of what was called the law and legislative committee of law enforcement in the state. the chiefs of police, the sheriffs, the district attorney's all had one committee that represented them in the state legisl

reagan didn't. there's a common misperception at the time later and even today that reagan came into office focusing entirely on building up u.s. and allies strength, deferred negotiations until a new type of soviet leader emerged. in fact reagan attempted early on to engage with brezhnev and his successors yuri andropov and constantine chinyenko. and given the role of history in -- well, the role of history in the lives of the russians he was dealing with later he wrote to chinye in,ko in february of 1984 "i have reflected at something length on the tragedy and scale of those losses. surely they must affect your thinking today. neither i nor the american people hold any offensive intentions toward you or the soviet people when it came to policy decisions, i think reagan put out on the table zero option on intermediate nuclear forces treat y treaty. he put that out in 1981 and there was a wide perception that it was purely cynical because the u.s. and nato did not have pershing two. a lot of people

was governor reagan on the list? guest: governor reagan was not on the list. believe he had established himself as two formidable of a politician. he wasn't sure he could control someone who demanded that much support. nixon went into the convention and a somewhat tenuous situation. my recollection is that it took six under six to seven votes for the nomination. he had 26 more than that. that is not a position of strength. reagan came in and at the convention, as soon as he picked up his candidacy, he picked up 19 votes. nixon had to go to strom thurmond. strom thurmond knew that nixon needed him desperately. nixon knew that he needed strom thurmond desperately. and strom thurmond knew that nix on knew. the two main questions were guidelines on racial integration. nixon favored guidelines. they get sent the question of timetables, photos, and -- and all of quotas, that which was messy at the time. opposed tong, nixon school busing. he finessed the first, assurance on the second, and absolute assurance on the third, which was the vice president. d.c. john in wa

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it took jimmy carter to create ronald reagan.n the same vein that it took jimmy carter to create ronald reagan, you can't imagine how great the president is going to obama.follows barack thank you. thank you. thanks, everybody. i don't need water, just fooling you. i think so, yeah, i have no problem. i did my time, right? >> we have microphones, i can't remember. in the form of a question. >> then i will repeat it. then i'll pretend i didn't hear it and go to the next one. >> i'm shane from el paso county , the toughest class in its , and i think it's ironic we are here. a mile and a half to our south and 2000 vertical feet up the mountain is the will rogers shrine, who gets the attribution so trickle-down economics given that we are facing liberals who are cynical and pessimistic and don't believe people can earn their own keep, and it's all these greedy corporations that are sucking up all of these profits, how do we answer them? what recommendations would you give as a logical and heartfelt response to some who doesn't unders

. >> i happened to be with ronald reagan, watching jp2 get off the airplane in poland.bend over and kiss the ground. really, really emotional. >> i looked at regan and he had a tear in his eye. i interpreted it as having enormous historical experience. >> regan recognizes what this pope represents because of course reagan is this anti-communist, and he recognizes this kindred soul who he believes is going to change the world. >> an estimated 3 million people attend his mass. the pope tells his countrymen that they cannot be controlled by their government. he urges polish catholics to persevere with the strength that comes from faith. >> the people who had gathered en masse began to sing "we want god, we want god." what could the authorities do? the pope's assistant whispers to him after a number of minutes perhaps we should put an end to this. and the pope said back, no, no. this is why i came. >> he spends nine days there, nine very significant days. he tells people, don't listen to what the government says about you, you're poles. you're christians. you have a dignity

and if you look at those pictures that he shot of reagan i think we have some of those images of reagan it's the exact same style and the exact same. even the setting set up a real counterpoint to a real political counterpoint but it's the same reagan as the statesman reagan the serious even. he should some often below angle shot to get that sort of sense of grandeur about it there but then and reagan you know as a statesman talk a leader is the leader and so forth but then also the private moments reagan with his wife nancy here with michael jackson or reagan the shots that we all know over again him on his ranch ride this horse cowboy solar exactly that image that we have of reagan is the image that those gave us of reagan and that's the exact same thing with obama we think we know obama we think he's a strong intelligent serious man who also has a fun side has a sense of humor is a very close loving relationship with his wife we don't really know that i don't know if i'm out of the what he's like but we think we know that because those are the images that a piece of gave us ok we're

you see the old refs, bush, reagan, allh again, beat up. it is an example of how he could take a very complicated political issue and if you're doing a good political cartoon you can still it down to a nice visual nugget that conveys the complexities quickly. hopefully with a little bit of bite. this is a cartoon i did. naturally, they liked it here because it is about the head of the chamber of commerce, which is right next door. all the money they were spending on the campaign, i should not date my cartoons, but i believe this is from 2008. resistance is futile and they are blasting the democrats with piles of cash. i understand he likes this cartoon, which fills me with mixed emotions. these two are the oldest ones in the bar and really represent kind of the golden age of american political cartooning. which you would have found in puff magazine. it was a political cartoon magazine. these were done by kepler. they are colored lithographs. i wish i knew the details of the politics at the time. here, you have a classic political cartoon tr

. >> for reagan.m told me that william casey, who was the overall chairman, had been with the oss, the president sesser of the cia during the war came in a week before the debate, plopped down our debate book and said i think you might want to look at there. baker said to me, i wasn't sure should i use it or not. i said i'm going to use it. we believe and there's a book out, as well, it has fingerprints, dave gergen's fingerprints, files. >> who in the carter house? you write only three or four people had copies of that book. how did a copy of that book get out of the white house? out of the carter white house. >> according to the sources we have, bob dunn or lori. >> bob was our trip director >> i know. i know. >> right. he was in with corbin. >> lucy was the daughter of the governor who ran with john anderson. they gave it to paul corbin who was a labor organizer but had been arrested many times. and the thing is interesting, chris, because it shows the enmity on the kennedy side. he had been a ted

an intimate portrait of nancy reagan. joining me now is the former press secretary to nancy reagan.friend. this book must have been a real labor of love for you, sheila. >> it was. it was. but it was also the hardest thing i ever did, dana. dy >> dana: why? >> i felt such a responsibility once i finally decided to do it to really help provide a more fullsome profile of nancy reagan. so many people at her memorial talked to me about how sad they were that more people didn't know her the way we knew her. and as you can probably imagine, after i heard that about ten times, i thought they were blaming me. >> dana: right. yes, i know exactly what you're talking about. you feel like you have a responsibility. another good friend of both of us, the press secretary for the reagans, he told a story about a wardrobe malfunction with gorbachev. he said i thought nancy reagan did more about that. not many people know the story. >> he said it was the first time he everold anybody that story. there was particularly a freezing cold day. instead of meeting and greeting them outside of the diplomati

let's start with california governor ronald reagan. david: a fairly young reagan at that time. that was 1968. ronald reagan was governor of california. he had been a democrat and became a republican. i had a long history with him because i had first photographed him as governor, then he ran against my boss, gerald ford, when i was the white house photographer. they had their showdown at the republican convention of 1976. then, of course, reagan went on to become president. the beautiful things about my career is i have seen people progress through it from the beginning to the end. in 1968.ronald reagan and i covered his funeral. these are people i got to know. marvin kalb. in 1968, i don't think that reagan's influence on the war and on the flow of domestic events was all that great. i think it was later that he picked up a head of steam. at that time, he was still a young politician on the rise. believeot yet become, i , the governor of california. he was governor at that time? a young governor. he didn't deal at that time with student unrest, and he became associated with the

that's what president carter did in president reagan did. the harmful conduct to provide us with minimal baseline information. >> to represent that no other country that fails all three criteria was excluded from this list? >> what i can represent is that it was holistic it was if your overall score so all of the countries listed in the proclamation of the same countries that fail below the baseline with the exception of somalia which the proclamation makes quite clear. iraq did fall below the baseline but wasn't subjected to sanctions. this reflects the taylor nature of this proclamation. the fact that it was meant to impose taylor pressure while taking into account other types of national security considerations to try to move them across the line. we have now seen it's been successful as with the case. >> if you compare this to the reagan and carter proclamation which are one or two sentences, this is longer than a proclamation i have seen in this particular area. >> this is the most detailed 1182 proclamation in history. >> the proclamat

the governor of california, ronald reagan.irst -- the picture of the 21-year-old kennerly and the fairly young reagan at the time, 1968. ronald reagan was governor of california. he had been a democrat, and was now a republican. i had a long history with him. i first photographed him as governor there, then he ran against my boss when i was the white house photographer. they had a showdown at the republican convention in 1976, then of course, reagan went on to become president. and i covered the first four years of his administration. beautiful things about my career is that i've seen people progressed through it from the beginning to end. there's ronald reagan in 1968. i covered his funeral. these are people i got to know. kalb, ronald reagan and the influence he had on that year. in 1968, i don't think his influence on the war and the flow of domestic events was that great. i think it was later that he picked up steam. but at that time, he was still, as david was saying, the young politician on the rise. on the make. he had

overtime in case of reagan rated as number one greatest president.and yet remember, the way he was portrayed in the media -- he's going to ruin the world i think the same change will occur with trump. >> and tweets, talk about the trump tweets. >> well, trump tells me in our interview -- it it he had not been tweeting, he would not be president. it is a way of getting around mainstream media and connecting with common people with his own vernacular often dispelled and -- in the morning -- start tweeting on his own -- he only l sleeps four hours at night, and then he'll start tweeting and he'll leave by the way a lot of major papers you know, he according to that novel by michael wolf doesn't. well it reads "the washington post" covered to cover -- new york tiles cover to cover. new york journal and washington times op-ed he will have things printed out from other publication and internet sites like breitbart. >> how do you know this? >> i was able to get right to the heart of the whole issue here, and find out, you know, what and the plane -- and oka

ronald reagan was an outlier. in fact, i think there was a cycle when we did not endorse reagan. probably did not line up with our publication schedule during that cycle. no, the sort of -- one of bill's favorite sayings from bill himer, a great influence on , was put not your faith in princes. not original to bill. but bill had a definite sense of the permanent things, and of politicians being very imperfect vessels. >> you have been going through the history. what do you make of this? jonah: that's right. there was this moment under george w. bush where the perception was that we were a house organ for the republican party. some writers may have gone too far in defending bush. part of that had to do with the fact we were at war in the wake of 9/11. we saw the opposition -- i don't want to speak editorially. the opposition to george w. bush was so unfair for a wartime president. even though we wrote stuff about how we opposed the department of homeland security, the immigration stuff, that kind of got washed out. the reality is that was an aberration from the norm. richard nixon

and there's no doubt that reagan did as the kind of counter-roosevelt. most presidents don't leave that kind of legacy. most prime ministers don't. since the second world war, churchill, thatcher, the rest not really. bill's legacy, what was the nature of that legacy? and the second question is, is that legacy a living legacy? is it still altering things, changing things, defining politics, making us think about things in different ways? so the first half of that question, i'm now going to turn to ed fullner. ed, you and i met each other in 1970, actually, at the society, and subsequently i worked for you in heritage. in those days at heritage we were absolutely delighted when national review noticed something we had done. it seems odd to think now that the heritage foundation was kind of desperate for attention. but we were. and i want to begin by asking you, someone who knew bill through all those years, what do you think bill's legacy is? and how does it -- how is the movement he created? what is it? >> john, bill buckley was one of kind. you think ab

a lot of people felt reagan had gone too far. one of the reasons he had gained a following among the right-wing of the republican party was just for reasons like that, that he was capable of ordering a crackdown on the young demonstrators. guest: during that time, i believe they had helicopters over uc berkeley dispensing teargas. i'm glad things have calmed down, for my son's sake. the young governor, reagan, was line order -- law and order and definitely had cops cracking down on university demonstrations. host: another significant player, senator eugene mccarthy. guest: that was in 1968 during the campaign. he was the first mainline politician to rise up against lbj. host: thomas joins us from maryland. democrats line. caller: good morning. i find it interesting in the conversation that your journalists are having. it seems like they are coming across, to me, that they live in a white supremacist world with perks, whether you are liberal or conservative. it is still white supremacy. the reason i'm going at it this way is i not

ronald reagan was an outlier. reagan probably did not line up with our publication during that cycle. one of bill's favorite sayings , put not your faith in princes. bill.ot original to but bill had a definite sense of politicians being very imperfect vessels. rich: run us through the history. what do you make of this? jonah: that's right. there was this moment under george w. bush were the perception was that we were house organs for the republican party. some writers may have gone too far in defending bush. part of that had to do with the fact we were at war in the wake of 9/11. without the opposition -- i don't want to speak editorially. but the opposition to george w. for a wartimefair president. even though we wrote stuff about how we opposed the department home and security -- of homeland security, it got washed out. the reality is that was an aberration from the norm. richard nixon famously said he wereht the buckley-ites more dangerous than the left. they were more persuasive. eisenhower had a problem with

she was, you know, often times we talk about the closeness of ronald reagan and nancy reagan and their love story, but ronald reagan had been married to jane wimeman before. the whole kennebunk port compound was reminiscence of the kennedys and cape cod. her staying with her husband but doing thing once her own terms. she was frustrated because he couldn't tell her anything anymore. they shared everything together. so she started going around and talking to people about her experiences in china and that is when she got involved with the l literacy campaign. which she thought was the key of unlocking the hearts and minds of the country. she became the general of book festivals and laura bush emulated her. created a texas book festival and it is mainly her devotion to her husband and the fact that they had this incredible marriage and the fact of how loyal she was to people that knew her. even somebody like lee atwater, she stayed loyal to him. if she liked you, she would do anything for you. >> david gergen, what do you think you will remember most about mrs. bush? >> barbara bush died

ronald reagan knew the cold war was hot, the conflict in afghanistan in nicaragua, ronald reagan reachedut to find the compromises necessary to end the cold war. we should not go back to the cold war. and send us back in the right direction with cooperation, rather than confrontation. david: thank you for your time. dana rohrabacher of california. shery: major averages paring back some earlier losses. there is taylor riggs with the latest. >> you stole my thunder, paring back losses, we were sharply red and coming back a little bit and this week has been characterized by the same volatility, losses, gains, losses, gains, losses again. the nasdaq down as much as 6/10 of 1% and trying to crawl back. terminal, we have a cool earnings chart. or 20he past 20 quarters earnings seasons i should say, the s&p posted gains, this until february when we had the big equity volatility moment that happened. the real question is -- today, we talk about the bank earnings and kicking off earnings season, does that continue? trying to get back to games today but i like this chart as we look at earnings sea

collapsed in detroit about ford going on the ticket with governor reagan.tantly, governor reagan picked up the phone and asked for george bush. and at that time that moment, it set in motion three presidencies at least -- the reagan presidency, the first bush presidency, the second bush presidency. but the key moment was the next morning. a lot of distrust. a lot of tension between the reagans and the bushes, and they had sort of an awkward cup of coffee as these things unfold. and afterward, as they were parting, mrs. bush walked up to ronald reagan and said, governor, we're going to work our tails off for you. and mike dever recalled that at that moment, ronald reagan was sold and never had a second thought. and they did. they worked their tails off for him. they worked their tails off for their own campaigns, for their sons, and for so many causes. they've raised so much money through the years for everything you can think of. and it's a sad night. >> it was pointed out tonight as a couple they have raised in their years together over $1 billion for char

i noticed the carter and reagan order had case-by-case exceptions. i look at this order and this has case-by-case exceptions. it says case-by-case waivers may be appropriate and individual circumstances such as, giving examples, the following. they have to be no terrorist, that is blindly, and they have to be in the interest of the cannot betes and undue hardship, and the temperature appears immigration law, extreme hardship,. then they have a list. established, business reasons, they have been here studying or other long-term activities. they want to visit a close family member, they have a disease they need treatment for, they have previously been employed, about five are the things. focus on that class. few who dobe quite a fall within that class. >> only a small number of people who sit to come. >> that is what i am asking about. as far as we are concerned, if they fall within that class, there's no reason why they should be excluded other than the normal processes. >> a couple of responses, your honor. in terms of the reasons that should be excl

he was not a big fan of ronald reagan. are moderate conservative sensibilities, the way the parents brought it up was to take care. he has to look out for the little guy. what he saw with ronald reagan was somebody who was turning a blind eye to the poverty and hunger and other issues in the united states in the 1980's. as ronald reagan drives by in his limousine. thinking those people haven't made a bad choice in their lives by not choosing to be rich. and that really good -- that really underscores his opinions that you had to help the poor and you had to understand the properties and institutions and not make assumptions about why people are poor. he do a lot of cartoons about the need to support the poor by providing better housing, better nutrition , better ventricle care -- better medical care. we can see that herb block have some great ideas. the line is not as steady. pencil has a tendency to smear in a way that whacks crammed is not. here we have george herbert walker bush. denying that he was involved in the iran