and this time we're going to let ronald reagan be ronald reagan. >> the mantra let reagan be reagan wasge of what we've got. the strongest thing, our best political asset is ronald reagan being himself, communicating with the american people. when he was showing his personality, his ideas and rhetoric, he generally succeeded. >> going into tonight's debate a new nbc news poll indicates the race continues to narrow. >> i think the audience out there tonight will be looking at ronald reagan in a new way. i think in louisville the myth or the mystique of the great communicator was dented, perhaps irreparab irreparably. >> president kennedy had to go days on end with very little sleep during the cuban missile crisis. is there any doubt in your mind that you would be able to function in such circumstances? >> not at all. mr. truitt. and i want you to know that also i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's youth and inexperience. >> it brought down the house, and it was his house by then. >> there were several times during h

so reagan had to constantly let the right know, i know what i'm doing. >> reagan was being accused already on communism, but he hadn't forgotten the problems we still had. europe was still divided, there was still a berlin wall. >> there's one sign the soviets can make that would be unmistakable, that would advance dramatically the cause of freedom and peace. mr. gorbachev, open this gate. mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> it was perfect. it was beautiful. he had to insist on keeping it in the speech. and he did it. don't let anybody tell you it was a staffer or anybody else that did that. >> meanwhile, in the soviet union, gorbachev decides to do something bold and he says let's separate sdi from reducing the nuclear stockpile. once he does this, it opens up the possibility for a third summit. >> this week's summit may prove especially important, even historic. for the first time since the onset of the nuclear age, the united states and soviet union will sign a treaty actually reducing the number of nuclear missiles. >> the inf involved the elimination of an entire class of weapons,

nancy reagan embraced it. her detail was so loyal to her and so good, but there's a great story in the book, i think, about her lead a littles, a guy named george, never talked to anybody but wanted to talk to me about her, and he actually sent me copies of the notes they'd exchange. the day at the hospital, he win into the chapel and he handed her handkerchief, and he said to her, there's nothing we can do now but pray. and she wrote him a note back when she sent back the laundered handkerchief, and he -- so he shared that with me and i put that in the book as well. after -- normally the secret service agents rotate because they don't want them to become complacent in their assignment, and too comfortable with it. so george was her lead agent for six years, and one day he told he had to go into the oval office to see john simpson, the head of the secret service and the president. he guess in and they tell him that the secret service is transferring him off of nancy's detail, but he, george, is the one who has

reagan double down on his attack. he received the support in north carolina. senator jeffrey helms. one of the most hawkish voices in the republican party. and helms mobilize conservative voters to come out and vote for reagan. reagan shocked both political pundits in march 2019 -- 1976 when he defeated ford in the north carolina primaries with 52% of the vote. on march 31, the -- to celebrate his victory, reagan bought national television airtime, and told voters, his one problem that must be solved , or everything else is meaningless. i am speaking of the problem of our national security. our nation he said, is in danger. he reminded the president that while priest is not -- peace does not come from weakness or retreat, it comes from the restoration of america's military superiority. he continued to do pretty well on this national security theme. he won the primaries in texas and alabama, and georgia. and a few other states. when reagan won texas, ford's advisors were scrambling to stop the bleeding. most importantl

t ultimately found a champion in ronald reagan. president reagan challenged the centrist policies of gerald ford in the 1976 presidential campaign and he won the presidency in 1980 on a pro-defense anti-communist platform. this is about 50 minutes. ♪ >> that was david bowie's classic song "heroes" released in 1977, which features two young lovers who meet at the berlin wall, a wall that separated east and west germany. and had come to symbolize the divisions of the cold war. we've now looked at the declining trust in government that had been a central part of post-world war ii america that resulted from the war in vietnam and from the shocking scandal of watergate. and we've also looked at the erosion of the growing economy, which had brought so many americans into the middle class during the 1950s and '60s. we learned about the rising voices, both on the right and the left, that sought to fill the void that was being created in american politics. and for the third part of my trifecta today, we're going to look at the failed effort

reagan met the challenge. the problem of today -- if you look at all the countries in asia, they are reproducing very fast. misses you win a war, we replaced our numbers. if you look at the demographics, you have four sons so they can replenish -- so a country like afghanistan -- my question to you is this. is you are explaining, the republicans became dependent on the southern states and the very religious base that opposed abortion of course. and liberal values and that. but what you need now is to educate women to have fewer children in other countries. my question to you is do you think that the way politics developed in america has compromised the ability of the republicans to actually win these conflicts abroad >> daniel, thank you. >> does he have a point? >> i don't know. it's a little hard to stand -- first of all 1968, it was the bloodiest year in the vietnam war. there is nothing comparable to what we have today. we had 500,000 troops in vietnam , and southeast asia. the war was tearing the country

when pat brown was running against reagan and he dismissed reagan a reagan and tried to make light of them. i've never flown an airplane, but don't worry because i've always been interested in aviation. >> reagan won that leelection b almost a million votes and immediately, he's a major figure in american politics. >> he was a stealth canned ad. he let them basically run him in 11 states and he picked up 11% in new hampshire and picked up 22%, maybe in nebraska and picked up 20% in oregon and 20% in california because he was the favorite son. that gave hem a base to go into the convention and the only way as we just heard, the only way he could possibly get the nomination is deny nixon on the first ballot, the nomination and nixon was not in a great position of strength going into that convention and it was entirely conceivable that he could have been denied the nomination on the first ballot. he wasn't, largely because of strom thurmond. >> he's the editor of the american conservative and matthew delick is the professor of george washington university and 1968, a year in turmoil, the

>> nancy reagan embraced it. there is a great story about her lead agent who's never talked to anybody he actually sent me copies of notes they had exchanged today at the hospital he went on to the chapel and he handed her a handkerchief and said to her there's nothing we can do now but pray. she wrote a note back and he shared that with me and i put that in the book as well. after they rotate because they don't want them to become complacent in theirco assignment or too comfortable with it. so george was her lead agent for six years and one day he was told he had to go into the oval office to see the head of the secretim service and the president. he goes in and they tell him the secret service is transferring him off of the detail but george is the one that is going to have to tell her they were taking her favorite agent away. >> that a happened in her final agent had a promise from the secret service director that her agent would stay with her until she died and it actually happened, but that was the worst day

ronald megan -- reagan made his first bid. we will show you a a 30 minute nixon for president campaign film. an interview with the purdue university professor on how richard nixon changed his media strategy for nancy '68. later, the life and career of the leading conservative woman from that era, congress moment and ambassador clare booth luce. >>> these programs are from our c-span series, 1968:america in turmoil. you can listen to it as podcast on spotify. watch 1960:america in turmoil into next week on c-span3. women's rights in 1968 on saturday. american turmoil continues while congress continues it summer break. with the vietnam war at home, on monday. tuesday the cold war in 1968. >>> next from her series 1960:america in turmoil. a look back at conservative politics 50 years ago. perceived liberal excesses and disenchantment with the size of government. gave rise to political right and the resurgence of richard nixon and the republican presidential victory. ronald reagan ate his debut as a presidential candidate. our gue

was governor reagan on the list? guest: governor reagan was not on the list. i believe he had established himself as two formidable of a politician. he wasn't sure he could control someone who demanded that much support. nixon went into the convention and a somewhat tenuous situation. my recollection is that it took six under six to seven votes for the nomination. he had 26 more than that. that is not a position of strength. reagan came in and at the convention, as soon as he picked up his candidacy, he picked up 19 votes. nixon had to go to strom thurmond. strom thurmond knew that nixon needed him desperately. nixon knew that he needed strom thurmond desperately. and strom thurmond knew that nix on knew. the two main questions were guidelines on racial integration. nixon favored guidelines. they get sent the question of timetables, photos, and -- and all of quotas, that which was messy at the time. opposed tong, nixon school busing. he finessed the first, assurance on the second, and absolute assurance on the third, which was the vice president. d.c. john in

reagan in 1946 to 1965 reagan refused to fly. he was in a very bad airplane flight and i think they got caught in a thunderstorm. he didn't fly again until the fall of 1965. he gets a call one evening from his brother in san francisco who says they are a group of guys who would like to have breakfast with you in the morning to talk about supporting the governor. he said well you know i don't fly and we can't get to san francisco that fast. he said well you get to decide if you want to be governor. i will be at the wisenhunt up on him. next stay with reagan for the first time in 20 years gets on an airplane which tells you how vicious he was. he is riding a train and he didn't gamble and the world books. hayek for sample and freeman so reagan is reading conservative economics. trump didn't do any of that. trump made money, he invented new things like "the apprentice" and golfed. he doesn't drink. it's not like he was hanging around being wasteful. he is a business guy and he's not a politician. his own ego sense that he could do a

they are, in fact, the antithesis of ronald reagan and are against everything ronald reagan stood for, and you certainly could talk about big government. the fact that these so-called conservatives in congress along with donald trump have passed the largest spending bill ever. have the largest federal debt ever. exploded the deficit, the yearly deficit. have been more fiscally irresponsible than any congress in u.s. history, and yet -- and yet -- still claim the mantle of reagan while being demagogues. do we have that to run? mika, let's go to break on it and i'll tell all of my conservative friends, take a good, close look at what ronald reagan said, because it's very telling. he didn't say this in, like, june of 1986. this was his farewell speech to america. still ahead on "morning joe" what do we have, mika? >> we'll tell you about a mother and daughter deported to el salvador, but a judge steps in and orders the plane turned around nap story is coming up. you're watching "morning joe." >> and here's reagan. >> -- and since this is the last speech that i will give as president i th

running against reagan, he dismissed reagan and try to make light of him. he said he's got no experience. he said i've never flown an ryrplane but don't wor because i've always been interested in aviation. but reagan won the election by almost one million votes, and immediately he is a major figure in american politics. but in 1968 he was the stealth candidate. basically runs him and these areas states. he picked up 11% in new nebraska, 20% in in oregon, 100% in california because he was a favorite son. that gave him a base going into the convention. and the only way he could possibly get the nomination is ixon on the first ballot, the nomination. and richard nixon was not in a position of strength going into that convention, and it was conceivable that he could been denied the nomination on the first ballot. he wasn't, largely because of strong thurmond. merry is the editor of the american conservative and is a professor at washington university. google get to your phone calls, john in tampa florida, go ahead and >. to understand 1968, you have to go back

they know nothing about reagan.i said earlier to you this morning laura they're in over their heads, they don't know what they're talking about. we all worked for president reagan and on the issue of immigration a lot of democrats are saying the republican party of donald trump if only they were more like reagan on immigration. let's play a few of the choice sound bites from president reagan on immigration. >> the simple truth is that we've lost control of our own board percent and no nation can do that and survive that. i've spoken of the shining city all my political life. in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind swept, god blessed and teeming with people of all kinds living in harman any and peace. if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. >> bill, you can take a hit at that one. first of all i get schiffers every time i hear him speak. the left takes that part of the city on the hill, anyone c

he is different from ronald reagan, reagan was different from john f. kennedy, so forth and so on. this has been so much fun. i am just loving it. >> c-span's "washington journal," live with news and policy issues that impact you. coming saturday morning, stars and stripes reporter discusses top issues facing new veterans affairs secretary and house editor david wasserman talks about his outlook for the upcoming midterm elections. watch c-span's "the washington post" live 7:00 eastern on saturday morning. -- washington journal, light at 7:00 eastern saturday morning. alexweekend, the guest is smith, executive director of the conservative pac american rising. she talks about opposition research and president trump's role in the 2018 elections. the interview, 10:00 and 6:00 eastern on c-span. next, a look at trade policy and its impact on tariffs. the steel industry and manufacturing. this event was hosted by the national press foundation. >> we have with us, jennifer hillman a professor at georgetown law center. she is an expert on wto, brexit. she will talk specifically about the w

and he studied what he's done, and he also studied ronald reagan. and in his library there were these boxes of research that he did on ronald reagan. and he observed reagan was really effective in using television to connect to the emotion of viewers, of voters. and there's this really compelling speech where you have nixon's writing on it and he says reagan appeals to the hearts, we appeal to the minds. are we missing something by not invoking this media strategy? and he gathered this team and they all agree what wept wrong in 1960 is he did want use media effe effectively. he completely revamped and followed what kennedy did and reagan did. and this is really significant because at the end of the day he believed and the people he surrounded himself with believed that the difference between nixon the loser and nixon the winner was that embrace that show biz politics style. >> paced on that there were no debates in 1968 but richard nixon, the man in the arena inthies televised settings, and i put that in quote because they were carefully orchestrate

he is different from ronald reagan, reagan was different from john f. kennedy, so forth and so on. this has been so much fun. i am just loving it. >> larry couple, thank you for your time. -- larry kudlow, thank you for a time. >> the c-span cities tour takes you to las cruces new mexico, with the help of our comcast cable partners, we explore the literary life and history of las cruces, located at the foot of the organ mountains and the banks of the rio grande. saturday at eastern on book tv. john hunter explores the impact of the manhattan project in his book "j opera oppenheimer." >> when oppenheimer brought nuclear physics west, first to berkeley and caltech, then to d,w mexico, he change particularly new mexico. poor,is state that was had low infrastructure, and put in the middle of it the federally funded facility that just transformed the state. >> author martha andrews discusses the role of frontier women in her book "out of the shadows, the women of southern new mexico," sunday at 2:00 p.m.. we visit the white sands missile range museum. >> the testing that has been it has

and he also studied ronald reagan. and in the nixon library there are these boxes of research he did on ronald reagan. and he observed that reagan was really effective at using television. to connect to the emotions of potential voters. there's this really compelling speech when you had nixon's handwriting on it. and he actually says reagan appeals to the heart. we appeal to the minds, are we missing something? by not invoking reagan's strategy. he gathered this team media advisers, advertising execs and television producers, roger ailes notably and they all agreed that what went wrong in 1960 was that he didn't use media effectively and he didn't turn himself into a celebrity the way kennedy had. so he completely revamped his media strategy. made television central. and followed what kennedy did and followed what reagan did. and this is really significant, because at the end of the day, he believed and the people he surrounded himself with believed, that the difference between nixon the loser and nixon the winner was

on ronald reagan. he observed that reagan was really effective at using television. to connect to the emotions of potential voters. and there is this really compelling speech when you have nixon's handwriting on it and he actually says, reagan appeals to the heart, we appeal to the mind is. -- minds. are we missing something by not invoking reagan strategy? together this team of media advisers, and -- advertising executives and television producers, roger ailes notably and they all agreed that what went wrong in 1968 was that he didn't use media effectively and he didn't turn himself into the celebrity the way kennedy had. he made television central, and followed what kennedy did unfollowed what reagan did. this is really significant because at the end of the day, he believed and the people he surrounded himself with believed that the difference between nixon the loser and nixon the winner was that embrace of that showbiz politics style. >> based on that, there were no debates in 1968. but richard nixo

then president roosevelt, winston churchhill, president reagan. and the incumbent understands the vernacular of reality tv and social media. we know that the presidency has not changed the incumbent, right? we don't know whether the incumbent has changed the presidency. i think one thing he has changed is it's hard for me to imagine a successor not having an authentic ongoing social media communication with the country. >> you think that's permanent? >> i do. >> twitter, the whole thing. >> i think that if you start -- if you look at -- i think going forward, if you look at something that comes out from a candidate or an incumbent and it looks as though it went through four layers of people, i think that's going to have an affect. i could be wrong, but we are all the media now. >> so if you're thinking -- i don't want to get -- i was trying to focus on the past but let's bring it -- >> sorry. >> let's bring it up to now. are you saying jon meacham, that in order to be successful in electoral politics in this country, you've got to be able to maste

president reagan did. i swear to god. i never met president. reagan but i did get to know mrs. reagan a little bit. she would eat a third of a cobb salad at lunch. you felt huge next to her. it was always terrible because she would gossip-- she would always do more gossip than i did. for me it was i don't know man. -- i don't know miss. yes it's terrible.>> i just noted that president. reagan had such an effect on our language and sense of national identity, people think that jesus said shining on the hill. she looked up at me and said, well that's the kind of thing ronnie would do, isn't it?

he is different from ronald reagan, reagan was different from john f. kennedy, so forth and so on.this has been so much fun. i am just loving it. i am just loving it. steve: larry kudlow, we thank you for a time. mr. kudlow: i appreciate it. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] c-span's "washington journal," live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. lux discusses his democrat in the age of trump." of thephen gutowski washington freebie can and ralph peters, retired army lieutenant colonel. journal,""washington live every morning to join the discussion. >> monday night on the "communicators," a look at the new european policy laws that will impact companies like google and facebook. joining us on the program, nualaia espinel and o'connor. >> we only to think of our data custodian responsibilities. in the digital age, every company is a data company. people are using, analyzing, and monopolizing data -- amount .

especially -- but it's especially with reagan. because they know nothing about reagan.said earlier, they're in over their head. they don't know what they're talking about. >> laura: we all worked for president reagan and we all know on the issue of immigration, the republican party, donald trump, if only again they were more like reagan on immigration. so let's play a few of the choice sound bites from president reagan on immigration. the simple truth is we have lost control of our borders. i have spoken of a shining city all my life. but it was a tall, proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind swept, god blessed and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace. if there had to be city walls the walls have doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. >> bill, take a hit at that one. i get shivers when i hear him speak talk about the city on the hill. the city had walls and a door. the left takes that part of city on a hill. ronald reagan wanted everyone to come but they forget about the part about the wall a

that helped revive reagan's campaign against ford. did ford hate reagan for this? ford was not one to hold grudges. but certainly, he was not happy with the reagan challenge. because it did make it difficult for ford to focus on his democratic rival, it took a lot of energy. i should point out one thing. this is what i mention as well. in some respects, ford deserves to be faulted here. he admits this. he did not truly realize just how strong of a challenge reagan could pose to him. i think, had he recognized it earlier, he might have had an easier time securing the nomination, but he did not. he was in for a hard fight against reagan. >> we have heard a lot about ford as president. what legacy did he leave on capitol hill after a quarter century of service? dr. kaufman: that is a good question. what legacy did he leave after a quarter century of service there? i spoke with a half dozen members of congress who served with ford in one form or another. legacy is one that they wished he could have left. if i can put it that way. , all of them were very upset with the

he is different from ronald reagan. reagan was different from john f. kennedy, so forth and so on. this has been so much fun. i am just loving it. >> larry kudlow, thank you for a -- your time. break thiste is on week. many senators back working in their home states. they have returned to washington, d.c. for legislative work on the 15th for debate on judicial nominations and 2019 federal spending. the house remains in a district where period for the month and will return for legislative business on september 4. you can watch the house live on c-span and the senate on c-span2. hearings confirmation for brett kavanaugh to be a supreme court justice are expected in september. senators are likely to question judge kavanagh about roe v. wade, the 1973 decision that struck down many restrictions on abortion. tonight, landmark cases present an in-depth look at roe v. wade. you will also hear from los angeles time supreme court reporter david savage discussing judge kavanagh's nomination and the abortion issue. this week, book tv is in prime time. seanht at 8:00 eastern, spicer with his m

but with regard to raingan, reagan was young. that's a different reagan i saw in the white house. and i think reagan would have gone for victory in vietnam and would have gone all-out bombing and used american power and there would have been no limits on going into laos or cambodia. >> late september, vice president humphrey travels to salt lake city to do what? >> he gives a speech in which he finally comes out against the johnson policy on the vietnam war. and he speaks up in favor of peace and going to peace talks and de-americanization of the war. and some people think if he had just done that earlier, because as pat said, he was coming on strong at the end in part, perhaps, because of johnson's decisions, baa you also made a reference to president tu of south vietnam. and there's a great book called chasing shadows about the back channeling that was being done between the nixon campaign and president tu about the peace talks. >> that's a matter of some controversy. >> we're going to debt to that. >> george bloomington, illinois, republican line. go ahead with your question, g

president reagan did and so i swear to god. so i never met president reagan but i did get to know mrs. reagan, the only woman at lunch would eat a third of a cobb salad. you felt huge next to her. and i said you know it was always terrible because knew more gossip about the obamas than i did. i don't know, ma'am. it was terrible. whatever. so we are talking once and i said you know what i just noticed president reagan had such an effect on our language and national identity. people think that jesus said shining on the hill and she looked at me with those big eyes and said without affect, well that's the kind of thing ronnie would do, isn't it? may we all beloved as nancy davis loved ronald reagan. >> a great note to end on. thank you jon meacham. [ applause ] you are watching our coverage about presidential historic sites across the country. in a moment historians will discuss how they choose which stories are told when they prepare biographies of u.s. presidents and historians from various presidential sites talk about preside

i was with nixon then, but with regard to reagan, reagan was young, you saw the reagan there, that's a different reagan than in the white house in '85, and i think reagan would have gone for victory in vietnam, and used american power, and i think no limits ongoing no l.a. os or cambodia. >> he wept to salt lake city to -- went to salt lake city to do what? >> he finally come out against the johnson policy on the vietnam water. and he speaks up in favor of peace, and going to peace talks, and some people think if he had done that earlier, because as pat said, he was coming on strong at the end, in part, perhaps of johnson's decision, but you also made a reference to of south vietnam, and there's a great book called chasing shadows, by ken hughes at the miller center, about the back channeling that was being done between the nixon campaign and tsu about the peace talks. >> that's another talk. >> george, bloomington illinois, republican line. go ahead with your question. >> caller: i have a question of mr. buchanan, and miss perry concerning president johnson's tardiness in supporting

ronald reagan came very, very close. there'll -- there were several states and the governor reagan came within one to two votes of breaking it open. close, but close is not good enough. host: this is brad from kentucky, democrat line. i only wish to bring up the would of been the democrats 1968 nominee in sen. roberts: at -- senator robert kennedy. he had a true compassion for the american people that has not been seen since. it is a most laughable to most recentto our nominee, mrs. clinton. ethel kennedy who is still alive, i would just like to thank her and i hope she is in good health. thank you. there is no shortage of people who believe given the momentum that senator kennedy had coming out of the california primary. it might have been in fact enough to carry them all the way. the entrance to forces if you will of the party machinery that rallied around vice president humphrey was very powerful. they called a lot of shots. host: how is humphrey as a candidate? guest: it was the wrong year, you know. humphrey talked

what was reagan's agenda? patriotism come at the communism, free markets, family values, pro-life it wasn't a racial agenda. that's the reason the left try to take it all on nixon because they can't get reagan. all this slimy sneaky underhanded stuff that's going on, trump is oliver fake news but no one is really on the fake scholarship and is what a lot of my career is focus on my unmasking distraught and shunted into public debate. they won't do it because they cannot stand up to let its good to get the of it is do what you can to push the message out. don't be afraid of it. the end of the day truth is a deadly weapon. i mean, winston churchill once said about reality that you can deny it, you can't evade it, you can score it, you can middle to it come you can dodge it but at the end of the day there it is, the same can be said of truth. [applause] >> thank you. >> rudy, north easily college. i wanted to say i read all your books, , watch your movies. i think you draw your work is awesome and keep going. don

reagan. he observed that reagan was really effective at using television to connect it to the emotions of voters. there is a really compelling speech where you have nixon's handwriting on it. he actually says, and reggina -- reagan appeals to the heart. we missing something by not invoking this strategy? and he gathered a team of media advisers and advertising executives, roger ailes, notably. they all agreed. what went wrong in 1960 was that he did not use the media effectively. he did not put himself into celebrity the way that kennedy had. so he completely revamped his media strategy called media central and followed what kennedy did and followed what reagan did. this is significant, because at the end of the day, he believed, and the people that he surrounded himself with believed, that the difference between nixon the loser and nixon the winner was that the showbiz politics style. >> basement, there were no debates in 1968, but richard nixon, the man in the arena in these televised town

that helped revive reagan's campaign. did ford hate reagan? ford was not one to hold grudges but certainly he was not happy with the challenge because it made it difficult to focus on his democratic rival. it took a lot of energy. this is what i mentioned as well, in some respects he deserves to be faulted and he admits this. he did not truly realize just how strong of a challenge reagan could pose to him. had he recognized that earlier he may have had an easier time securing the nomination so he was in it for a long, hard fight. >> what legacy did he leave on capitol hill? >> what legacy did he leave on capitol hill? i spoke with a half dozen members of congress that had served with ford and the legacy is one that they wished that he could have left. all of them were very upset with the decline of bipartisanship. if ford could have left a legacy that could be it. you should be willing to listen to the other side, taken what-- take in what they have to say because they might have good ideas. i know for certain based on what i've read about for

certainly, he was not happy with the reagan challenge. it did make it difficult for ford to focus on his democratic rival. it took a lot of energy. i should point out one of the things. in some respects, ford deserves to be faulted here. he admits this. he did not truly realize just how strong of a challenge reagan could posed to him. i think had he recognized it earlier, he might've had an easier time securing the nomination. he was in a long, hard fight against reagan. >> we have heard a lot about ford's legacy as president, what legacy did he leave on capitol hill? >> that is a good question. i spoke with about a half-dozen members of congress who or another. the legacy is one that they wished that i think he could have left. to achieve all of them -- all of them were upset with the decline of bipartisanship. if ford could have left a legacy, that would've been it. of course you can be loyal to your party, but you should be willing to listen to the other side. taken what they have to say. they might have good ideas. i know for certain,

demographic with the new evangelical vote to bring in the anti-communist catholics into more of a reagan democrat to have opportunity to make that political landscape with disaffected union workers, with the first industrial economy and that is a lack of labor unions in the sunbelt. it's not so much about major moments although you could point to a few leg appointed to the governorship. but there are the to see the conservative republican breakthroughs as a goldwater conservative with a landslide election, 16 years after goldwater was annihilated in the campaign to see a radical transformation in a short period of time but no single moment there is a perfect storm of social conservatives with religious mobilization and the idea that scandal and corruption and watergate was the message by trust my government and my government is confident and will not waste my money it is transformed by 1980 through ronald reagan government is not the solution to your problem that is the problem. >> in this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem. [applause

president reagan came to my rescue. he said, he said, honey -- he was talking to his wife, not to me. he said, honey, leave the chef alone. that's a beautiful dessert. and so, nancy reagan looked up to the president and said, honey, eat your soup. this is not your problem. so he went down and ate his soup. well, i don't care. that's not my thing. although they did have a wonderful marriage, you know that. so then i went down to the kitchen and you know, one word came to mind, suicide. i said, if there is a stockpot on the stove boiling hot, i am probably going to jump in. because i don't know -- and i was fairly new in the white house, maybe a year, year and a half. and i said, you know, it's going to be a short stay. so i am really in despair. i mean, despair. and the phone rings, it's mrs. reagan. she said, roland, come back to the solarium, i know exactly what i want to do. i said, oh, man, i rush upstairs. i get there and she says, roland, here is what you're going to do. she said, you know netherlands is nope for t

into reagan's life and soul. i mean, it literally almost brought my wife debbie to tears because when you see these of the city and utility of reagan -- i love picking up his books and going through them. you see his handwriting marks in the margin. as far as i know, he didn't. , went to the jackson plantation, came out and said andrew jackson was a great guy. andrew jackson was a patriot. i would not say everything is bad about andrew jackson, but andrew jackson was also as he kicked american indians off his land was buying the land and his friends were putting up money, and he was pocketing money on the sides. there is a whole dark side of andrew jackson, which is all laid out in a book on jackson that spells this out in gruesome detail. so he is a very mixed figure to say the least. notice even democrats are embarrassed by him. that is why they pretend like thomas jefferson started the democratic party, the democratic republican party. >> thank you. >> good morning. my name is ryan, and i am from the united ki

reagan, this is beautiful. i do agree. and remember, i was the only pastry man at the white house those days. and i would have to make 15, 16 of those. and it is sunday afternoon. so, i told mrs. reagan, i said madame, this is beautiful. but, madam, there is only two days left before the dinner. here comes the challenge. roland, correction, you have two days and two nights. you know, i still have the chill in my back today, right now as we speak. and i said yes madam, thank you very much. sugar. for some of you who do not know what a sugar basket is, it's all made of sugar, we leave it like a basket and all. in my book, dessert university, there is a sketch that shows you how to make a basket. and then you have to make four tulips per basket, sometimes 15, you can count how many sugar tulips that is. plus i have to make cookies and many other things. the rest of the business does not stop because of that. so, she said, i have two days and two nights. now, ladies and gentlemen, here is when you know what proud is. because,

the lights are back on at reagan national this morning.hat's after a power outage created some chaos there last eeght. you can on the left side of your screen, things are back to normal. news4's justin finch is at the airport to bring us a live date what happened there. and what it means for today's flight in just a fminutes. first, good morning, everybody, i'm aaron gilchrist. >> and i'm eorka gonzalez in eun yang. we're working for you on this thursday morni helping you get out the door with everything tou need know. melissa has a look at the commute in just a minute. >> first, a forecast from chuck and sheena as we get closer to the weekend. what's the good news here? >>ew good is it will not be 95 degrees over the weekend. welcome news. >>,nd sund especially looks quite a bit cooler. >> it's that the good news. >> the other good news, we're getting closer to th weekend. we're past wednesday. we do have rain in the forecasth k it's all uphill from here. i don't know, the weekend's upon uso uphill i guess. i'm not sure. 73 degrees right