to that reagan-bush legacy our children of an additional $3 trillion of debt.hat that will forever burden and handicap them. george bush promised, read my lips, no new taxes. it won an election. but what he really meant was, read my lips, add new debt. that is generally showing -- generationally immoral. [cheering] [applause] our children deserve better. on this journey of purpose, i commit myself to making this thriving,striving, triumphant competitor in the world marketplace. [applause] i commit myself to in america where a standard -- an america where a standard of living and our industrial output are second to none in the world. [applause] i commit myself to economic security, for this generation and their children. this obligation to our young is as old as civilization. worde apache tongue, the for grandfather and grandson is the same. they understood linkage. they understood honor. they understood mutual obligation. in washington, there is no such wisdom. [applause] in washington, it is all here and now. it is all phony data. the vision extends only to th

fori think it speaks well both ronald reagan and george bush than ronald reagan selected george bush's running mate. he served loyally for eight years. reagan gave him a lot more responsibility than most of their vice president got from their presidents. we have an office and the west wing, which was a new phenomenon in american politics. by ronald andd nephew reagan to give the eulogy at the national cathedral. what started off as a political rivalry, and sometimes was fought far -- toughly between bush and reagan. became very good friends, but very respectful of each other. and george put -- and george bush said in his eulogy, i -- i learnedthan more from ronald reagan about politics. that is another issue. i can explain. the reagan have their own privacy. they did not dine together. reagan and bush had lunch together every thursday without fail. reagan wrote a number of notes when he was leaving office to incoming president bush, and made reference of missing thursday lunch. there was a great deal -- in some ways, pedro, they were closer personally than any other president and vice

bush republican. some conservatives are wondering how much ronald reagan conservatism is running through those veins? george w. bush: i appreciate that. i thought ronald reagan was a great president. i come from the baby boomer generation. anddifferent from my dad ronald reagan. i have a record, and people will find it is a conservative record, but i am a compassionate fellow. presidentld you rate bush and president reagan? george w. bush: president bush is a fabulous dad. they are both great men. they did a lot for america. they understood that the office of the president of united states is better than the occupant. >> thank you very much. george w. bush: thank you. i appreciate you. >> how are you doing? george w. bush: good to see you. >> [indiscernible] george w. bush: congratulations. [indiscernible] >> thank you. george w. bush: appreciate y'all. a lot. >> you are watching road to the white house rewind, american pastry tv's weekly look at presidential races. next, we continue with george w. bush on the campaign trail in keene, new hampshire

fact the only recent republicans to win both iowa and new hampshire were incumbent presidents, reagan, bush, and bush. and only two democrats, al gore and john kerry have won both since jimmy carter was president. as you can see, new hampshire's likely to go differently than iowa. much more after the break. huh. introducing centrum vitamints. a brand new multivitamin you enjoy like a mint. with a full spectrum of essential nutrients... surprisingly smooth, refreshingly cool. i see you found the vitamints. new centrum vitamints. a delicious new way to get your multivitamins. >>> one down, three to go "mtp daily." next stop, new hampshire. then south and head west. but whether south carolina or nevada comes fer defends which party you're in. i'll explain after this. >>> god bless the great state of new hampshire. >> i'm grateful, i have to say, to the people of new hampshire. >> nice to come to new hampshire, i get to come to front door of places. in new jersey i am never allowed to come through the front door. >> love new hampshire. . >> country of new hampshire, a place so beautiful and wel

like, a reagan the poster that later became convinced that mr. bush was the reagan real deal. and i review by conservative media has had to say about the president. frankly, a lot of the conservative journals that are not among my own media diet, bush came in for a lot of conservative criticism, an awful lot their places like cato, "the weekly standard," american conservative, forbes, professor christopher higgins spoke about this but the volume and tone of criticism directed at mr. bush from the right i think is surprising and something to consider. some of those complaints might be dismissed as not being representative, as being narrow. i think in the later part of mr. bush's second term some could say look, these are conservatives rats fleeing a sinking ship while trying to prevent the good name of conservatives from going down with the bush titanic. there's something to that bestow on balance i don't think you can dismiss it out of him. i think they constitute another red flag towards the facile labeling of bush as a doctrinaire conservative. is t

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we reached the point after 12 years of the reagan, bush administration that we were unable to articulate effectively on why the country should have preferred george bush for four more years rather than bill clinton. >> can you give us a sense of what you will look to republican leaders in iowa to tell you? what kind of feedback are you looking for here and elsewhere as you try to determine whether to run? mr. cheney: in terms of my own personal situation? this business is partly an analytical and intellectual exercise where you think about calculate the various possibilities and odds. it is more intuitive. i describe it as i will know it when i see it. of monthsculmination of travel, plugging to all different cuts of people in all different kinds of settings and different backgrounds and experience. there is as though list of 14 questions out there to check off so much as i will make a judgment after i have traveled the country. i've been in 40 states in the last your, and talk to a lot of clinical features -- political figures for it i will make a judgment of how it feels like. it is so

reagan as well is next bush, asmr. george h w well as donald trump, they all play on the cold that we talked about. they ignore the silent majority. reagan with the philadelphia mississippi. bush with the heart thing, and george was doing the same thing. what really bothered me is during the nixon administration, they imported a lot of heroine during the war on drugs. admiral ortar distributors of cocaine throughout the minority community. yet, they were on television saying say no to drugs. it has caused a tremendous amount of harm and minority communities. this is an off-base. another thing about mr. reagan, one of the things i disagree with, it seems like all the time he was in cabinet meetings, he was always sleeping. he was surrounded by people like mr. reagan. he was trying to get people to fire. over and destroyed our country. that is having a tremendous negative impact on our country. host: thank you for the call. guest: i do not know how to unpack this. ronald reagan left office in january. he had a 40% approva

face next year is very simple -- whether we will go back to the failed economic policies of the reagan-bush era -- trickle down, i'm not sure if any of it trickled down anywhere or whether we will go forward to build a better america. based on an economy of record unemployment and record growth, with record prosperity for record numbers of people without by our nextd president, now vice president, soon to be promoted. [applause] he is going to say a few words, but i want you to join me and my family in supporting vice president al gore to be our next president and elect him in the year 2000. [applause] mr. gore: thank you, chris. chris and linda have been wonderful friends to tipper and me for all of these years now and i appreciate the friendship and loyalty and all the time we have been able to spend together. i want to thank ashley and garrison. you have a wonderful family and the house looks even nicer than the last time. -- there areeople several rooms that are filled here. who are basketball fans, the final score was uconn 64, ohio state 58. [applause] i also want to say a serious wor

if i look back over the presidents of my lifetime, reagan and bush had to deal with a democratic congress. they had good relationships. clinton dealt with gingrich and gingrich -- clinton takes credit for welfare reform. gingrich enforced it. bush allowed kennedy to co-author his signature domestic legislation. then, we have obama. obama came into up this -- into office. -- job he did of advisorsa world and czars and we ultimately end -- i don'tudget here understand how it is mathematically possible that the budget can be passed with more democrat votes than republican votes and a republican congress. people wonder why donald trump and bernie sanders have such widespread support. guest: a couple of things there. one is this most recent budget agreement. you mentioned the votes cast for it. for the spending portion, 150 republicans voted for it. the is an example of how minority party can have more leverage and influence when the majority party is more divided. there are other things going on here. had a filibuster in the senate. it makes it hard for republicans to get things they would li

we have representatives from six administrations, the nixon administration, reagan, bush 41, 43, presidentama. i will say i was disappointed we couldn't get four in the corridor because we could've gotten two more people on the stage that would qualify it as a republican presidential debate. [laughter] so, i'm going to go down, logically and ask everyone to speak for no more than five minutes and i will cut you off if i have to. i should say i forgot to bring a watch comes with u. see me checking my phone i'm looking at the time, not because i'm fascinated by my latest e-mail or text message. speak for five minutes about how their president handled moments of national attention and then they will have a little panel discussion that will open up to questions. so the first question on sitting immediately to my left is the deputy director in the nixon white house from the writing and research staff now professor of media and public affairs at george washington university. take it away. >> thanks to all that organized this conference bringing in more visibility and coherence than what used to

we reached the point after 12 years of the reagan and bush administration that we were unable to articulate effectively why the country should have over billgeorge bush clinton or ross perot. >> can you give us a sense of what you will look to republican leaders in iowa to tell you? what kind of feedback are you looking for here and elsewhere as you try to determine whether to run? in terms of my own personal situation? this business is partly an intellectual exercise where you think about and calculate various possible odds and developments. but it is more an intuitive sort of feel. i describe it as i will know it when i see it. it's a culmination of months of travel, talking to all kinds of people in all different kinds of settings and backgrounds and experience. it is not as though there is a list of 14 questions to talk about. i will make a judgment after i and traveled the country talk to a lot of political figures. it's something i'm prepared to because in my judgment i'm the best one to do it. >> one of the most respected political leaders in this state is jim leach. one of the inter

it's almost like the reagan and you covered this, bush the elder, transfer of power. , 88 that you had, you know, ronald reagan not really campaigning hard for bush the elder, primarily because he wasn't up to it physically. >> well, that's true. but i might add to that though that george h.w. bush really was very careful while he drew some distinctions between himfulself and reagan he didn't draw very many. it was more of tone than substance. >> his campaign would have appreciated reagan doing more. but as i write and as we know now, reagan at the it end of his term was shaky, physically. and couldn't. but they didn't want that, you know, out. so, the transfer from a president to another president in the same party is always fraught, and there is a lot of infighting. i think we are going to see that. >> >> i it i do think on some issues she let it be known that she differed on the speed of the withdraw from iraq on articulating president withdraw. deadline surging from troops and other issues as well and okay some domestic issues as well. i'm not sure particularly pro

. >> i was reminded of reagan ads, bush ads, clinton ads, you know, some point it's like this somehowppeal to the american people. they all buy the same stuff. but if that's what our ads will look like next year, america if you're curious, that's what it looks like, it's like people running through pastures and big american flags flying in the wind. >> i don't know, not a bad ad. >> i love the ad and it got my attention during the debate. their theme music is so distinctive sh you immediately knew what it was. i have to say kg, i liked the first two seasons, i got through three of the third and then i never even went back and finished it. i'm not that excited about it. >> oh no. >> northwest a fan? >> first season great, second season kind of boring, third season so hard to get through. you're a big fan but you decide to be a big fan so you're going to stay with it. you can't really like it any more. it gets so boring. you have to think too hard when you watch it. >> i don't think he ever should have become the president. >> then there's a couple of murders. >> and the murders -- >> w

from a liberal point of view and that made sense because clinton understood liberalism after reagan and bush was on probation. you can see what happens when he went too far the first two years and obama's determination in the sentences, probation is over. that is the root of that comment which not only was very brutal political rhetoric but also reflected a deeper seriousness about him that i for one admire even if i don't like him but anyway. >> is interesting to me to hear conservatives who believe obama has accomplished the most, that he has accomplished fundamental transformation of america in a very sinister way. liberals look at obama and are sort of like disappointed the didn't get much done and it is -- he has managed to either alarm or let down everyone. >> isn't that interesting. >> clearly done his job. which is it? has he done this transformative thing or has he not accomplished enough? which is it? how do you think history will judge since you are the one who is going to be the judge? >> journalists are first historians. >> i am still back with lincoln in the nineteenth century.

they're hoping the same with reagan and getting concern with bush senior with that and saying that we want don't to go up against george sr. we know what happened in nevere -- >> the numbers of the delegates and the votes that you need to win are increasingly getting more complicated. this is the fact because they're not in the favor. >> that's not what i asked. you think that you're getting ahead of yourself and hoping and praying. >> my point is this. you have mitt winning the votes and then the next one has to win 40 percent in order to win. >> he is not a franchise. if you look at the polls today he is not franchising anybody else in the republican party. >> he is bringing people -- >> i am not saying yay or nay. he is bringing many people that voted republican but not voted at all. >> i would love to see the people cast the votes when it's time to cast the votes. >> ted cruz. >> you may not like it. >> he is not bringing it in. >> you may not like the results because ted comes out all of the time. >> we have more after this in the feds and the wake of the terror. what could happe

that wasn't from ronlt reagan or george bush. that was barack obama. each agency where feasible and appropriate shall seek the views of those who are likely to be affected. not ronald reagan. not george bush. but barack obama. this stuff makes sense. open the process up. let the american people see the impact and the rules that are being proposed. just like in every other government agency. the e.p.a. shouldn't get special treatment. transparency, good government, american involvement from the people and the process is what this amendment is about. i would encourage all of my colleagues to support good government and a great amendment and i would reserve the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman reserves the balance of his time. the gentleman from new jersey is recognized. mr. pallone: madam chair, let me just say that this process with the e.p.a. is very transparent. they do consider cause and i disagree with the gentleman. i would urge opposition to this amendment. i yield back the balance of my time. the chair: the gentleman yields back the ba

but when people can laugh at themselves, next the reagan, george bush, bill clinton, any of them, ites them a way that can only help them. bill clinton came in his first year as president, he gave a nasty speech, he criticized bob dole and john k sick. i the end he was hiring professional writers in the comics didn't how to follow him because he was making fun out of himself. the first ladies have started relatively recently. they don't make fun of themselves exactly like nancy did it. she made made fun of her husband's, that's considered okay. if hillary clinton is president and she gives one of the speeches, the whole town will want to know what she says about bill clinton. >> okay this is be the last question and it's about the tools that they have today, social media, youtube and the like. it's also. it's also very difficult thing to manage because all day long people are commenting on their policies, one of those given take away things. but we've all seen this in this is a nice way to end this part of the discussion. to see how how a modern president uses the tool that we have o

ronald reagan to george w. bush. welcome. good to have you here. >> thank you for having me here.h: why is this such a good play, in your view? >> trump is completely in sync with it. he imposes a temporary ban and tell our representatives can get their hands around and screen all at these people that would come to the united states. he never calls for a permanent ban on all muslims migrating to the united states. there is no constitutional question here of carly fiorina. the president of the united states absolutely has this authority. banning it during the iran hostage crisis. republican primary voters agree. two thirds of the people in a bloomberg poll yesterday, the methodology of which i had time to study and i believe it is accurate, support that view. how they asked the question in the order they ask the question in did i cannot comment on it at this time. trish: you are talking about a religion. yesterday, the general was on the program. he thought that this was a sensible move. the right one by donald trump. the muslim religion. he has to confront the reality that we are

bush. or they majored in political science, like barack obama, or economics, like reagan and george h.w. bush. in the 20th century only two , presidents came from science or technical backgrounds -- hoover and carter. yet science is vitally , important. a president needs an advisor to give him counsel on how to promote science in public policy. after sputnik, eisenhower decided to appoint the first ever science advisor to the president. he created a special assistant to the president for science and technology. the media often called it the missile czar. for this position he appointed , james killian, an interesting guy. he was not a scientist by training. he had no phd in the science field, he had no medical degree. his background was in administration. he had accumulated enough honorary doctorates to where people called him "dr. killian." eisenhower created the 18 person psac, the presidential science advisory committee, consisting of 18 scientists, many of them nobel prize winners and future nobel prize winners, who would meet with the president and give him advice on science. eisenhow

these are his political heros, ronald reagan and bush, and you can argue about why these politiciansthe most conservative candidate has the best chance of getting the nomination and of winning the election. >> and ted cruz took to twitter to e are respond to donald trump, calling him a bit of a maniac. during an interview on fox news, trump said cruz isn't qualified to be president. >> that's why we showed you the clip earlier. cruz tweeted the video maniac, in honor of my friend donald trump, and good-hearted maniacs everywhere. >> they will face off at the last debate this year. >> cnn will host the event in las vegas. athena jones tells us who else will take the main stage. >> reporter: i'm coming you right here on the las vegas strip. this is where it will all go down on tuesday. you can see the main stage has been set. we know the nine candidates who made the cut for the debate. they are in order, john kasich, carly fiorina, marco rubio, ben carson, donald trump, ted cruz, jeb bush, chris christie, and rand paul. trump is center stage. he's still the front runner nationally. his

editorials in its news coverage like it had in the past in 1980 with the came out hard for reagan against george h.w. bush. adam: on the democratic side, the bottom line is this is a tight race between sanders and clinton? >> i think so. historically, 35% has preferred the outsider candidate. we are seeing that again this time. this is a state that sanders could win. adam: which is a shock to a lot of people on the clinton side. a lot of the old hands say if you are a candidate running from a neighboring state to new hampshire, you have a built-in advantage. is that correct? >> i think you do. you can go back to 1972. certainly, michael dukakis, mitt romney has done well because of their proximity. i think there are a couple things that make them better candidates. it is not that they are better known necessarily. very people in new hampshire could tell you who the senators from massachusetts or maine are. but it is more important they campaign here to drive across the state border. most important, they have the sing kind of voters here as they do in their home states. adam: what is the one take away that

ronald reagan is far, not far, to the right of george h. w. bush. there's no sense that george h.. bush is ever really at the conservative. he's a business person who has business interests. remember his father was a very moderate republican senator from connecticut. connecticut is not known for their deep conservative political roots. certainly if they have -- but george h. to the bush is never really a conservative republican. but he did have some conservative republicans in this administration as we later saw, particularly a fellow named dick cheney becomes a secretary of defense. george w. bush, as i said, really is a hybrid. his political ideology is so deeply invested in his personal born-again christianity, and he carries, interestingly enough, some of his dad's moderate republican roots but he lived in texas. when you live in texas as karl rove did in 1994, moved into the right of who he had been before that. jeb bush is an interesting guy. jeb bush is, i would say, had been the most moderate of the three of them. he's married of course, his wife is hispanic. makes a big d

bush or donald trump. the most decisive victories in the last 35 years have been with die-hard conservatives, ronald reagan and george w. bush. they say what the party nominates more establishment types like bob dole or john mccain, mitt romney, those candidates lose. and it sounds compelling. but there's an alternate history. one that begins not with reagan, but with the drubbing that a very conservative, barry goldwater took in 1964. this school of thought says that today, even reagan himself couldn't get nominated in a party dominated by tea party freedom caucus types. mccain, romney, they didn't lose because they were insufficiently conservative. but because of the contortions that were demanded of them by evangelical christians and other social conservatives in primary and caucus season. maybe if romney had run as the reasonable republican who governed the bluest state in the nation instead of as i severe conservative, he could have beaten obama. instead, his many flip flops made him damaged goods in the general. so what's the answer? probably that no experiment will finally settle the debate, because

bush watched ronald reagan very closely, and drew a surprising conclusion from president reagan's insistence on going forward, leading in a clear way, putting his emphasis on speaking, after all he didn't invade the soviet union, she just spoke the truth to and about the soviet union. so to reagan, the public part of the presidency was more than symbolic. it was deeply informational and part of his leadership. i think vice president-then bush looked at and it saw it more of the show business part of the presidency, which he didn't relate to. he related to being in the office, talking to our allies, coming to conclusions, being with his aides, and so he was less of a public shower of the role of the presidency, and i do think on some level it probably damaged him a little bit. >> host: job meacham has access to george h.w. bush, you have seen some of the quotes. what was your initial reaction to seeing those quotes? kind of trashing his son's -- some of his appointees. >> guest: i had a little bit of a stricter reaction than some people did. my strict reaction was, mr. president, george h.w.

the hopeful platform he ran on, even if they disagreed with it, the way democrats did with reagan and george w. bush would they fight him until the last dog died and play to the fear and loathing of his most bitter and angry detractors, essentially promising total victory over the supposed interloper in the white house. the way the gingrich brigades played the clinton era. would they launch total war on obama, even at the risk of ripping the country apart, right down the seams of race and economic anxiety that were always there just below the surface. we all know what choice was made, and when they inevitably failed, time and again to deliver the defeat of this president, that anger and rage inevitably turned on them. and now, the coming election promises to be a brutal context, of who can best exploit the fear and loathing and anxiety of the american people. not a very happy prospect for the new year. and that does it for me and "hardball." "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >>> tonight on "all in." >> we are here to announce today charges that have just been filed against william henry co

arguing in the negative will be team reagan former new hampshire governor and former chief of staff to george h.w. bush and author of the age of reagan, biographer stephen hayward. now debaters, please come and take the stage. i've been charged with keeping time. and unlike the benghazi special kbh committee, all of which whom ran over, i'm going to be relentless in keeping time. governor douglas, you're first up. please take the podium. begin with your five-minute opening statement. >> thank you so much for being here. we're glad you are. we know why you're here. we're delighted to have you. i want to just say a word as the trustee of the coolidge foundation. a thank you to each of you joining us, to the institute for politics and its director who is the busiest guy in the country for the next year or so, i think, but this is a great partnership as our foundation under the leadership of amity is bringing coolidge to a wider audience all across our country. we appreciate the chance to be here with all of you tonight. calvin coolidge has the temperament, the experience, and the decency that's needed in

. >> okay, jake, let's talk about ronald reagan's vice president son jeb bush. with republicans like these, who needs democrats. i mean, as much as jeb landed a few punches, i feel like in the hours and perhaps days since, trump continues to cut him to ribbons. >> well, look, alex, bush was hoping to run as the goliath in the campaign. instead he finds himself running as david. in the debate -- a couple debates ago he -- his slingshot mainly hit himself. >> his face. >> when he went after rubio. >> but this time he got a couple pebbles off. i don't think he's such an effective david, but he's got to figure out how you get this giant, bully ogre down from the podium. you got to use humor. it's not going to be a frontal attack, it's going to be a sideways attack. >> there was a real one-on-one unfolding between cruz and rubio that was substantive as far as foreign policy, national security and surveillance but jeb's sites were trained on trump and i felt like that was a missed opportunity for him to get in there and be part of what was becoming part of the main ev

arguing in the negative will be team reagan former new hampshire governor and former chief of staff to george h.w. bush and author of the age of reagan, biographer stephen hayward. now debaters, please come and take the stage. i've been charged with keeping time. and unlike the benghazi special kbh committee, all of which whom ran over, i'm going to be relentless in keeping time. governor douglas, you're first up. please take the podium. begin with your five-minute opening statement. >> thank you so much for being here. we're glad you are. we know why you're here. we're delighted to have you. i want to just say a word as the trustee of the coolidge foundation. a thank you to each of you joining us, to the institute for politics and its director who is the busiest guy in the country for the next year or so, i think, but this is a great partnership as our foundation under the leadership of amity is bringing coolidge to a wider audience all across our country. we appreciate the chance to be here with all of you tonight. calvin coolidge has the temperament, the experience, and the decency that's needed in

reagan. and later for george bush. so i wasn't setting the policy. was trying to support the president. >> would you have any trouble, you don't have any trouble obviously supporting jeb bush despite your past differences with his dad. >> oh, no. we're -- i have great respect for his dad, talk to him now and then, he's a wonderful guy. and you can't fight last year's battle. when it's over, it's over. >> how do you explain the anger at washington these days, which seems -- >> i don't know. trump says all politicians are stupid, you know, i have known a lot of politicians in the 36 years i was in congress, and there may have been a few stupid ones around but i've met hundreds and hundreds of democrats and republicans who are there because of people that trust in them. see, i was in the senate 28-plus years working with george mitchell and robert byrd and tom daschle, and we never had an unkind word. we never tried to sneak something through the senate. we were d's and r's but we were also friends, and that counts a lot. you have to put your arm around

bush reverted to his behavior as vice president. he stopped seeing the connection between words and actions. he did not communicate. i used to wonder if traumatized by what he saw as the reagan white house's too great attention to the public part of the presidency, the rose garden backdrops and commemorative events, mr. bush concluded the public part was all show and not worthy of sincere and honest -- >> guest: there was a little to that. i think vice president george h. w. bush watched ronald reagan very closely and drew a surprising conclusion from president reagan's insistence on going forward, leading in a clear way, he didn't invade the soviet union, do you know what i mean? a public part of the presidency was more and symbolic, it was deeply information on part of his leadership. i think vice president bush looked at it and saw it as a business part of the presidency, related to being on the office, related to conclusions, and less a public showing of the role of the presidency, in some level it damaged him a little bit. >> host: john mecham had access to george w. bush, you saw -- was your initial reaction to seeing those quote, some of those appointees? >> guest: i

reagan. but as i try to point out in the book, i don't think anyone could have accomplished what george herbert walker bush did internationally as well or as completely as he did. the collapse of the soviet union really, as i talk about in the book, it was his capacity to create personal relationships with his allies, thatcher, mitterrand, and kohl, and with the other side, gorbachev. - he was not reagan's third term, in fact. - no, he was his own term. ronald reagan did a wonderful thing. he built america's defense capacity and put the soviets on notice, to the point where gorbachev understood that he'd better move a little bit. but it was george bush, with his great diplomatic perception and his great diplomatic skills that really closed the deal. - his experience, which we learned first really about in the mass sense, when he ran for president in 1980, his experience was a very different experience. his set of experiences were very different from the people who preceded him, as you say. - right, and it was an amazing coincidence in time, that it was the right man at the right place. the way he handled s

if i look back over the presidents of my lifetime, reagan and bush had to deal with a democratic congressey had good relationships. clinton dealt with gingrich and gingrich -- clinton takes credit for welfare reform. gingrich enforced it. bush allowed kennedy to co-author his signature domestic legislation. then, we have obama. obama came into up this -- into office. -- job he did of advisorsa world and czars and we ultimately end -- i don'tudget here understand how it is mathematically possible that the budget can be passed with more democrat votes than republican votes and a republican congress. people wonder why donald trump and bernie sanders have such widespread support. guest: a couple of things there. one is this most recent budget agreement. you mentioned the votes cast for it. for the spending portion, 150 republicans voted for it. the is an example of how minority party can have more leverage and influence when the majority party is more divided. there are other things going on here. had a filibuster in the senate. it makes it hard for republicans to get things they would like l

he was talking about asking the wealthiest who got richer under reagan and bush in the boom years ofing them to pay for their fair share. at the time it represented the top 2% or so of income to go $250,000 plus. that was seen as a radical idea in 1992 when bill clinton campaigned on that. now here we are a generation later bar has moved and the discussion has changed. >> it is an interesting question you asked. yesterday or the day before it came out in new york the average price of an apartment is now over a million dollars. >> i think that's important. but what nicole was driving at is, you know, we've seen more income concentrated in the hands of those at the very top. so when you craft tax policy you go where the money is, essentially. and you can capture if you raise taxes on those above $250,000, you can capture a lot of money. >> let me ask you this question. what kind of policy limitations the clinton putting on herself by saying i will not raise taxes on anyone one $250,000. >> we know for sure that one thing they are fighting over is paid family leave. the democrats all ag

the last thing to remember here is having worked for ronald reagan, ronald reagan himself lost the iowa caucuses to george h.w. bush. and then proceeded to go on and win new hampshire and south carolina, et cetera. so, there's much more to come. this is the opening act. and alas for iowa, it doesn't always determine who the nominee is, as we all know, senator santorum won it four years ago and before that, governor huckabee. neither of them made it to the nomination. so he'll just keep plugging along here. there's more than just the opening act, whatever happens. >> ben, let me ask you this. what will we see on tuesday at this debate? because the donald trump we see on the stump is not the donald trump often we see in debates. he's a lot more cordial when he's there with the other candidates, and do we see trump will be going after them directly, trying to take those votes from him, or go after the other candidates to position himself as the last man standing other than trump? >> i think this debate is probably the most important debate we've had so far, for the fact it's so close to people actually getting to cast

ronald reagan had it with george h.w. bush. how much do you campaign for him.ton and al gore. how much of your legacy is tied. the most important part is not the rhetoric. it's the actual policy. you are right. you can throw anything out there about where you stand on things, but it's the specifics and where she is struggling is not on whether the mantra is don't do stupid stuff or not it's the fact when she gave her major speech on isis strategy a couple months ago, it was not much different than president obama's. if you want real separation you have got to say more than just do more air strikes and arab allies and more diplomacy. step all that up. have to have a real break on some of these issues to show that she substantively will be different. not just in speech but in actual substance. >> i see some more real crucial vulnerabilities for mrs. clintons, also that that i think could be exploited. have gitmo. does president obama think we should down gitmo and bring down terrorists. does hillary clinton believe we should allow you sanctuary cities to flourish

reagan democrats -- >> i miss ronald reagan, he showed a level of level-headedness on gun policy i don't see in this party. george w. bush put his arm around the muslims and went to a mosque six days after the attack. i don't see the kind of strength or the wisdom with reagan, if you want to talk about reagan -- >> van jones -- >> he couldn't get nominated in this incarnation of the republican party. i don't think that papa bush could win the nomination. there is an exodus of i's from the r ohio -- >> do you believe that -- he could not get nominated? >> i think one of the visions, the only ones that they have heard say something they can identify with. they can say i understand what carpetbombing is. >> this too, will pass. these are polls, this is temporary, this will go on. these candidates, it's really fascinating. remember, iowa, south carolina, new hampshire, they take their job very seriously. they will weigh in to the details of their plans. so it sells right now. maybe so. but i think they're going to have to have more meat on the bone. that becomes more leadership. i think the elder bush could get elected. peop

clinton, bush, the other bush, reagan, they all talked about hey, i'm this party but i'm going to bring as many people in as possible. what we've been seeing over the last six months, especially since donald trump got into the race is not hey, everyone come into the party, it's all about out. stay out. stay out. if you're an immigrant, if you're muslim, if you're african american, i don't see how a party can win that way. as an american it's very troubling because that's not the america i grew up in. >> i think, mika, the challenge for donald trump obviously, if he wins this and you've had this discussion with him. how much can he turn if he wins the republican nomination? i know he can say he's progress mat rancic and can turn on a time. >> he can actually pull off. it's a message that comes from his heart that americans really can see beyond make america great again but we hate certain groups and we don't trust certain groups and we won't let certain groups in. that's a hard term to make. >> all right. still ahead on morning joe donald trump will join us live and i'm going to ask him

aorge bush might say islam is religion of peace. going back to ronald reaganing to support an initiative in california that would have banned gay teachers. they knew that if they pushed this kind of stuff that they would be playing with fire. trump has none of that, and that is what rex people willing to use this word fascism. because once you feed on the angry energies of people who , you kind ofssed unleash forces in the human brain that are more animalistic, and that is what is so frightening about trump, and that is why you see his popularity increase and increase and increase. midcentury intellectuals and new from studying the fascist of europe in the 1940's that once terra way that thin layer of civilization in an electric, anything is possible. human beings can be very ugly. it's obviously the case archnixon was kind of establishment terrien, and trump is anything but, balloon you think of the concept, a lot of what was going on was white americans who were discomfited what we nown of call demographic change. then it was seen as this kind of influx of a

republican from ronald reagan to george bush, but i cannot -- i do not like their far right policies.o i switched. host: thank you for the call. guest: that is the fear of a lot right now, the donald trump could drive independent voters to either stay home and not vote , or vote democrat in the 2016 either presidential or down ticket races. that is something a lot of people are fearing in the republican establishment write-down. senators cruise and marco rubio. these are tedious people the establishment is feeling as he the biggest defenders against the donald trump nomination. this is an issue tapping into the republicans establishment all over washington. news our website, a look at mass shootings in january of this year courtesy of shooting called tracker.com. 355 mass shootings, defined as four or more killed our injured -- killed or injured. most recently taking place in oregon and less wednesday and california. reaction? guest: this is one of the .easons americans are so scared one of the reasons donald trump is so successful in the polls is he is tapping into that fear. that us

reagan. he lost iowa to george h.w. bush. and he went right on to new hampshire and won new hampshire is and then on to south carolina, et cetera. and as a matter of fact, he lost some more primaries to bush along the way. he lost my home state of pennsylvania in april of 1980. you know, well down the road. so, this is going to be a long march here. this is not going to be decided in iowa or new hampshire, either. we're going to go on for quite some time. and that's where you get into questions of organization and money and resources and all that. >> kathleen, how vulnerable do you think marco rubio is on immigration? given his past legislative record? >> well, very. i mean, that's a problem for him. and that sort of explains the animus between him and ted cruz, too. nobody -- none of ted cruz's colleagues like him, because he's always been about himself, primarily. and he can work with the house to shut down the government. so, you know, they very much resent him. and then he's also taking pride, cruz is, in reminding people

bush's military history, and it was just one of those unfortunate. >> we haven't talked about the reagan years. how is that and how did that come about? >> it was just so beautiful, fabulous time. i could tell that this would be, it was my sense that especially if your irish, every generation gets a president. every generation gets to think that's my guy. from my grandmother it was franklin roosevelt. she kept in and i we do our part sign on the window buffalo apartment in brooklyn long enough so i remember seeing it in the 1950s. five parents it was jack kennedy and for me was reagan. i was so excited to work for. ii had the name for myself at cbs's. i'm going to make this a short story. all i wanted to be was a speechwriter for ronald reagan. i had faith in him and agreed with them. his approach to the world was the correct one in the constructive one. all i wanted to do was work for him. and i knew i could not try to be anything but what i was. when i would meet conservatives used to have a lot of shows a comment. i'm telling you, serious was so friendly and sweet, everyone knew i was