i think seeing that aspect, that hierarchy, those echelons, that , reallyo up and down made me the person and the writer i am today. at thespoke like you are center of the circle in the sense that people have to come to you. >> very much we're at the center of the circle, and again, this was never really spoken about. , evenk a lot of people the media, when it concerns itself with war and , there were times when my job was pretty mundane. i was just sitting in the office and no one was there. 9-5 and no one has picked up a lock today, and then two of my friends in a section would say we have to get to camp anaconda. we have to get to the fight alley. our job is literally pushing pencils, but at the same is an essential part of operations, and we were kind of an son because we were not the ones through the door first. it is an aspect that is never really played up. >> i also wanted to have you talk some more about your experiences in iraq, , tell us about maybe one of the more memorable stories where you felt that your skills and the things you were trained to do really paid off, that you

th after i prayed, i said i hate to ask you this, i don't reallyo believe yet, but if you can help me out, i could use some dough. but i went out to the mailbox. sure in your, a guy that owed me $20,000.15 years ago, sent $20,000. >> there are so many stories like that. it's almost like god has to keep teaching you trust. it's a lesson. he almostt brings you down toeso your lowest point and then he always delivers. when we get into religiousys debates and there is an excellent book about this. "liar, lord," why would he have died for a lie? that's what i always think, too? if you look at and you read the. stories in the bible, i don't would anyone do what he did for a lie?did to your point about community that, is what i think is the foundation of the churches in this country and we have gottenn away from it. like diners in this country, people came together. they're like a community. >> mostly greeks. >> well, but the community rallies in the diner. that's where people used to getk their news.iner i think people have gotten away from that sense of church and community and they're hun