they need to be a little more realristic. about 5% of americans think the way we do. he didn't make it. he had his teeth kicked in by authoritarians taking this country in a direction i have never seen in my lifetime. my points is for 35 years we organized libertarians ideas and we haven't gotten very far. we are going to keep coming back to -- to meetings like this. one of the reasons people have a hard time with libertarians is when rand paul says if i was a senator in 1964, i would have voted against the civil rights act. most americans will not embrace a candidate candidate who said tough people should suffer under the teeth of libber i. john: rand paul said in your private business you get to temperature on serve people if they stands on their heads. >> 5% say yes and 95% say no. john: what else could rand paul say that would have changed people's minds. >> milton freedman and hyatt support a welfare net to support the indigent and the poor. john: it's grown from a safety net to a giant hammock. >> 65% of entitlement spending don't go to poor people. immigrants a