that part of the southern indian ocean is one of the worst-covered areas in terms of providing realtime data ocean conditions. and it's very poorly surveyed on the bottom. and it's a tremendously difficult place to look for anything. >> alastair and everyone else, stick around because when we come right back we're going to get more of your questions. everything from black boxes to how much this search is costing. that's next. [ male announcer ] we all think about life insurance. but when we start worrying about tomorrow, we miss out on the things that matter today. ♪ at axa, we offer advice and help you break down your insurance goals into small, manageable steps. because when you plan for tomorrow, it helps you live for today. can we help you take a small step? for advice, retirement, and life insurance, connect with axa. >>> back to our special coverage of the disappearance of flight 370. we have a few more questions to our panel. first i'm going to start with richard quest. how much money is being spent on the investigation and search for possible rescue of flight 370? >> we don't have a

and they are using technology and application of realtime data in their wine making process. you know see here some of the amazing different processes that they use. let's check it out. here on the hillside in napa, these pickers are harvesting grapes the way it's been done for thousands of years: by hand. 20th century technology has a hand in almost every step of the process from vine to wine. >> i am an innovator when it comes to making the best wine possible, whatever it takes. doug shaffer is the president of shaffer vineyards. he has been working here since 1973 when his father bought the estate. wine making, experience, innovation, technology, computerization, able to get more information, better information to make better decisions with. >> for the last 29 years, his partner in making those decisions has been alia maker. he gave me a tour of the vineyard's high-tech tools fine tuning his craft. >> this is our weather station they gather ter detailed data in the field and transmit it via phone. >> what kind of analysis do the computers do? >> it gives us the temperature

not only could we find it, but we would have actual realtime data.other issues with this plane. the theories of hijacking and long journeys, et cetera. now, this is 2001 technology, passengers in each of the planes struggled and got phone calls out. some used the old air phone, the one in the back of the seat. but some used cell phones. and depending upon where you are and what towers you pass over, they got them out. is it possible though for some of those scenarios that 239 cell phones didn't -- you know, people didn't struggle and try to get phone calls out? i find that difficult to believe. so that technology would have been there as well. >> mary schiavo, always good to talk to you. thank you for that. distressing to say you and i are talking about iphone and blackberry technology instead of something that's so much more sophisticated or what we would like is more sophisticated. mary schiavo joining us live this morning. thank you for that. just how safe is that boeing 777? many of us ride on them all the time. a crash investigator who also was

support this, saying access to big data would help them respond better in emergencies when they have realtime datais that a good point? >> you know, it's a good point if it were applicable. and what i mean by that, listen, everybody wants to reduce crime, okay? no one is saying, oh, we think that being a murder capital is a good thing. obviously, everyone wants to feel safe. i think the issue with the surveillance center, the domain awareness center, that it's called, in oakland, which i think is really -- you know, everyone that listens and sees this thing popping up in their neighborhood should think about is that it's a pretty standard example of federal money coming in to prompt, you know, a technology project that, frankly, it's not enough money to fund, and the people on the ground running it don't know how to implement. i actually went through the process of talking to different leaders in the city to understand, okay, what is this domain awareness center going to do for you? and something that stunned me is that the money was going to the port of oakland, and the people at the port of oakl

what are your thoughts on satellite uplinking so that you can get realtime data from the flight recorders? >> well, you know, everybody's talking and i was part of many of these working groups. we're talking about uplinking the flight data recorder and sending tremendous amounts of data into the air. right now as we're speaking, there are 6,00 6,000 airplanes e air. can you imagine uplinking all that information? i could say we very easily could take the location data, speed direction and where am i because we already have it on the airplane in gps and uplink that every five minutes or ten minutes so that there is a repository of data that says where the airplane is at all times. and i think that's very much more affordable than what you were just talking. >> john, appreciate it, john gulia, he is a former member of the national transportation safety board. thank you. >>> and south africa, former olympic star oscar pistorius threw up after hearing the data from the technician. he shot his girlfriend reeva steenkamp thinking she was an intruder. >>> the taliban threatening violence, claimi

. >> airlines monitor the realtime data., all right, good night, the final call from the pilots of flight 370 left malaysian air space. a common phrase when changing controllers. >> alaska airlines flight 261 when the plane dived out of control, pilots radioed what was happening. but no mayday from flight 370. >> in the event of an emergency, is communication secondary? >> yes. the first priority is to fly the aircraft and then communicate. >> reporter: a third way to communicate, by transponder. 12:1, a.m., the plane loses contact. >> is there any good reason that a pilot would want to switch that off? >> no. clearly, if all of the power was lost to the aircraft or something happened to take out that part of the electronics, the electrical system, yeah, that would turn it off. but certainly one aspect of turning it off is because you don't want to be seen. >> reporter: radar tracked flight 370 flying for another nine minutes. then the plane vanishes. but the one piece of the plane that is likely still communicating, the fli

is a typhoon in the area and keeping the ships back at port is it time to tart thinking about realtime data or is it that incidents like this is so isolated that it doesn't just pay. >> quickly i think airlines have a tombstone mentality. it takes something tragic like this to do what they should have been all along. >> the clock is ticking on that black box. we sent out a black box locater recently. the box only has 30 day battery and we are 15 days into that. we may never know. >> in an age of terror, we have to have. this the pressure will be we are using 50-year-old technology but with the boxes. realtime transmission because in the age of terror, can you lose a plane and you have got to know was it human agency, that november lens or was it accident? that's key. remember, never bring a ba get to a nightclub. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories. tthere was a boy who traveledes to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked giants stood tall and the good queen showed the bo

spontaneity, the only place in the body where the muscles attach right to the skin so gives you quick, realtime data. that's those micro expressions that you refer to maybe in .1 you'll show an expression that reveals how you really feel. it's fair for the knowing eye, so that's the first key thing. the second thing, we're talking about putin is that facial expressions universal. in fact, even a person born blind emoats the same way. this carries across gender, cultures and goes to specific emotions so you get a richer read. you know whether you have anger, sadness, fear, happiness. body language can't do that. >> how much of a science is this? i remember a t.v. show that focused on all this and an expert who could tell when people are lying. how valuable is that? >> the origins are charles darwin, the first scientists to take emotions seriously, an advisor to the you're lying show went through the school of medicine in san francisco for a 15 year stretch, systemmisticly figured out the facial action coding system. it's quite scientific. >> vladimir putin, one of the things you noticed was anger. >>

noaa maintains a system of data buoys around the world in the oceans that provide realtime data about part of the ocean is one of the worst covered areas about providing conditions. >> stick around. when we come back we'll get more of your questions, everything from black boxes to how how much this search is costing. that's next. looks like you started to make something. ♪ ♪ [ female announcer ] cheerios. with flavors your heart will love. . >>> back to our special coverage of the disappearance of flight 370. i will start with richard quest. this is from edwin. he wants to know how much money is being spent on investigation and search for possible rescue of flight 370. >> we don't have a full number. the u.s. says is it about $2.5 million so far. the department of defense has allocated $4 million so far. i'm expecting that number to go much higher. but as long as they are using military assets, those assets already exist. so you're talking about fuel, overtime and all those sort of things, where it will become extremely expensive is if you start having to rent external facilities. at

of ships are looking to find out but at this moment, "uss blue ridge, the command ship getting realtime datafrom the air and have no confirmation about debris in that area. kerry sanders has been following this for us from washington, d.c. and has been in touch with the folks on board that ship. and kerry, let's go back to set the stage for people joining us. the anti-submarine hunting plane so far has not seen anything. there are also a couple of p-3 propeller planes on way. differentiate the type you have equipment that's on board and is it possible that the p 3 might be able to see something that the p isn't? >> it's more likely the 3 8 will see something that the p 3 can't. the best technology to see on the surface of the ocean are on board that p-8. the p 3s with less technology still have incredible ability to see and so you have the 3 3 two of those airborne in the area heading from the militaries of both australia and new zealand and the p 8 which is a u.s. aircraft all coming out of perth in australia. let me take you on the map down to the area we're talking about. they flying out

. >> reporter: airlines monitor the realtime data. another way to communicate, radio. night. the final call from the pilots as the theft malaysian air space. a common phrase when changing controllers. >> we are in a dive here. >> in alaska airlines flight 261 when the plane dived out of control, pilots radioed what was happening. but no may day from flight 370. in the event of an emergency, is communication secondary? >> yeah, the first thing is to fly the airplane, navigate the airplane, then communicate. that's the order of precedence. >> reporter: a third way to communicate, by transponder. 1:21 a.m. flight 370's transponder signal goes dead. it transmits the plane's location, speed, altitude and position. is there any good reason that a pilot would want to switch that off? >> clearly if all the power was lost to the aircraft or something happened to take out that part of the electronics, i mean the electrical system, that would turn it off, but certainly one aspect of turning it off is because you don't want to be seen. >> reporter: radar tracks flight 370 flying f

best way to prevent losing track of another airplane we equipping them with realtime black boxes so planes keep feeding key data in realtime instead of storing it in the cockpit. the technology already exists but it's not cheap. you like this idea. >> isn't it nuts that the black box which has the most information in the case of an airline crash, we can't get it, because guess what's, it's feet under the ocean, hidden in a jungle. that makes no sense whatsoever in the modern age. we have a situation, if you're a passenger on an airliner, you can get wi-fi. why can't they feed back the information? we endured this mystery of what was going on with the malaysian flight. we could have solved it a lot earlier if we had that information. >> it costs about $2 billion to make sure all these flights, every single flight in the world, is tracked via satellite. 3 billion travelers per year, commercial travelers. comes out to 60 cents per occupied seat. your thought. is it worth it. >> eric, you have to weigh that against what we've spent so far trying to find this plane all over -- you've got six or seven nations involve

but focusing on the 5 most dangerous intersections and our confliction factors and using our data for realtime deployment and redeployment we can get a handle at least for the enforcement piece but as far as as education we're going to need community and partnership we're looking both ways to cross the street now look both ways and make eye contact with the driver before you cross the street. you are our populations is over 8 hundred thousand and growing and twice as many bicyclists in the city and more construction in the country and at the same time everybody can't wait 60 seconds longer to be on their cell phone we're at a crisis level in san francisco we exceed violent crime serious injuries and deaths by those that are happening on the roads we can do this using technology and follow the lead of the people behind us but we can't get it done without doing it together. i ask i to sloan slow down and we'll have a safer city. thank you (clapping) >> thank you chief i think a couple of themes we've heard there's a crisis that requires an emergency and work together but you've heard that is a s

but focusing on the 5 most dangerous intersections and our confliction factors and using our data for realtime deployment and redeployment we can get a handle at least for the enforcement piece but as far as as education we're going to need community and partnership we're looking both ways to cross the street now look both ways and make eye contact with the driver before you cross the street. you are our populations is over 8 hundred thousand and growing and twice as many bicyclists in the city and more construction in the country and at the same time everybody can't wait 60 seconds longer to be on their cell phone we're at a crisis

that's not raising questions over why black boxes aren't transmitting data in realtime.ial flights a day around the world. all commercial jets are required to have black boxes. once it begins pinging, it pings once per second for 30 days. a battery with a six year shelf life powers that beacon. for more insight -- great to see you, why don't black boxes transmit in realtime? >> well, one of the reasons is that the number of parameters that the black boxes measure are themselves measured in the hundreds and hundreds of different data points, and multiply that by the bandwidth you would need technologically to transmit from one airplane let alone the fact that there could be five or six or 8,000 airplanes in the sky at any one time. and it's pretty overwhelming. >> there aren't enough sats in the sky to handle all of this band width information. and is it also a cost factor? how would they -- if they had to put up a bunch of satellites, be able to do this? i guess they would pass along the cost to the consumer, right? >> they would, and honestly, i don't think you really n

i mean, there's all of this stuff, it can be combined in realtime data, that the digital flight dataright here, and the cockpit voice recorder is all combined together in addition to other data and the forensics of the fragments from the airplane are extremely important also. >> okay. now, les, you had an opinion piece on our cnn website. this is fascinating to me. i think you gentlemen have also read it and i want you all to comment on this. a smoldering fire began to effect components and electronics and engineering. components began to fail's the crew followed appropriate checklists until it was determined the primary concern was landing the plane when the pilot enters that way point between the two different airports. but all of a sudden they can't control the plane. and it drops, loses altitude and begins this sort of flight, what people have called the zombie flight. how do you -- that seem like a plausible scenario to you? i know you're the underwater guy -- >> you know, payne stewart, the golfer, you can relate it to something like that. goes back to lesson and other fail-saf

what do you think of the practicality of installing those kinds of realtime satellite monitoring flight data systems on all aircraft across the world, number one, could it be done, would it be too expensive. and number two, i assume the black box that this plane would have been equipped has some sort of pinger device and how long would that last at the bottom of the ocean? >> the kind of system that was just described, there are a lot of people working on that same kind of thing, so i think it's inevitable, whether his system will turn out to be the system, or it will be more widespread, we'll have to see. the pinger, i think they go for two or three days. >> just two or three days. >> yeah. >> so it could be dead by now, the battery on that thing could be dead. >> that's my recollection. so i would stand to be corrected but it seems to me that it's two or three days. >> i thought it was a little longer than that but you have done these investigations so we will let it stand there. bob, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. >> sue? >> meantime, in intelligence circles, the name edward snow

best way to prevent losing track of another airplane we equipping them with realtime black boxes so planes keep feeding key dataaltime instead of storing it in the cockpit. the technology already exists but it's not cheap. you like this idea. >> isn't it nuts that the black box which has the most information in the case of an airline crash, we can't get it, because guess what's, it's feet under the ocean, hidden in a jungle. that makes no sense whatsoever in the modern age. we have a situation, if you're a passenger on an airliner, you can get wi-fi. why can't they feed back the information? we endured this mystery of what was going on with the malaysian flight. we could have solved it a lot earlier if we had that information. >> it costs about $2 billion to make sure all these flights, every single flight in the world, is tracked via satellite. 3 billion travelers per year, commercial travelers. comes out to 60 cents per occupied seat. your thought. is it worth it. >> eric, you have to weigh that against what we've spent so far trying to find this plane all over -- you've got six or seven nations involved in t