joining me from nashville to discuss it is radley balko senior editor for reason magazine and reason dot com bradley thanks so much for joining us now i guess first of all i just want to ask you your thoughts on this program i'm definitely a child of bear in school and the things that i remember most about it are i don't know perhaps making little skits where we had to role play and we made fun of it or maybe the biggest druggie in my high school sitting it is your book photo with a dare shirt a huge smile on his face eyes glazed over i mean really this program kind of became a mockery do you have any experiences with it. well yeah i think they're give us a large supply of ironic t. shirts or or it's yours to wear if you look at. a lot of these that troll academic studies of dare. just about all of them of found it to be at best ineffective then in some cases actually it was found to increase drug use among kids who keep their sort of because it actually introduced them to some drugs that they they wouldn't have known about otherwise. is not always the danger of informing people they start getting a